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From OP:
This is no 'deep' subject or problem (that I know of), but it sorta surprised me.
Then you write:
... use P; use Types::Core; ... Sorry , but tThat is not a minimal demonstration of a bug in perl, something you should have included in the OP

I don't know, but it sure seems like the Anon posting function being abused by someone trolling and looking to create a toxic atmosphere. --- BTW -- both of those modules are relatively simple and in pure perl.

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Re^6: UPDATED, mostly solved: separation of define + assignment different from combination?
by Anonymous Monk on Feb 13, 2014 at 05:07 UTC

    ... I don't know, but it sure seems like the Anon posting function being abused by someone trolling and looking to create a toxic atmosphere.

    That isn't very reasonable perl-diddler, How do I post a question effectively?, its for everybody

      If I thought it was a problem, I might have thought to investigate it before hand so toxic people wouldn't attack for having a conversation with people about a weird thing I saw and wondering about it.

      Is this a friendly place or is this a rule-bound hostile place where people can't pose ill-defined symptoms.

      If I needed any help debugging a program, I might consider that advice, but more often than not, I'm posing ideas or questions that don't involve code -- something I want other people's opinion on or to bounce ideas or thoughts off of.

      Sorry, but claiming I should have followed a writeup on asking a question about a behavior I saw, but had no test case for until another anonmonk tried to shutdown discussion about whether or not it might be a bug and gave an unrelated example to prove it, is a bit rule-bound and rigid.

      So far anonmonk as tried to shut down discussion, then said that code that reproduced the problem wasn't a valid minimal test case (like anyone claimed it was). And then whined about the question not being posed in a way that their rules applied.

      Is the anon-function ever used for anything useful, or just to harass and generate toxic comments?

      Seems to me it's being abused and given the nature of this being a technical discussion board, and not a life-counseling center, I see no reason why it should even have an anon-function.

      Whether it is a bug, "per se" ignores whether or not it is desirable or helpful behavior.

      But that gets back to the purpose of the software being to *help* the users of it -- not to gratify the ego of those who dominate it -- an opinion that I definitely seem to be in a minority of around here.

      Your attitude stinks.

        If I thought it was a problem, I might have thought to investigate it before hand so toxic people wouldn't attack for having a conversation with people about a weird thing I saw and wondering about it. Is this a friendly place or is this a rule-bound hostile place where people can't pose ill-defined symptoms.

        Its a friendly place where reasonable people can be reasonable, even if the symptoms are ill defined, minimal demonstration code is nice, appreciated, and wanted,

        but no, its not absolutely required, which is why I did not comment on your original posting

        If I needed any help debugging a program, I might consider that advice, but more often than not, I'm posing ideas or questions that don't involve code -- something I want other people's opinion on or to bounce ideas or thoughts off of.

        Thats cool, its why I didn't directly address your original post

        Sorry, but claiming I should have followed a writeup on asking a question about a behavior I saw, but had no test case for until another anonmonk tried to shutdown discussion about whether or not it might be a bug and gave an unrelated example to prove it, is a bit rule-bound and rigid. So far anonmonk as tried to shut down discussion, then said that code that reproduced the problem wasn't a valid minimal test case (like anyone claimed it was). And then whined about the question not being posed in a way that their rules applied.

        I don't believe so. Andal tried to replicate what you were talking about and thought he found a bug in warnings. I clarified for andal that his code doesn't demonstrate a bug in warnings.

        At this point you posted some code and lots of words for me to consider :) and I didn't see it as reasonable to have to install a few of your modules , to demonstrate a bug in warnings; This is all after you wrote UPDATED, mostly solved

        So I'm still interested in seeing this bug in warnings with a shorter code example; If you're interested, hey its cool; If you're not interested, I won't call you toxic

        Is the anon-function ever used for anything useful, or just to harass and generate toxic comments?

        I thought my observations and clarification for andal were useful

        99.999999% of the time it isn't used to harass or generate toxic comment

        I also believe in this case the comments didn't constitute toxic harassment

        Seems to me it's being abused and given the nature of this being a technical discussion board, and not a life-counseling center, I see no reason why it should even have an anon-function.

        It doesn't seem that way to a lot of people, see Having our anonymous cake and eating it too for a glimmer of that though

        Whether it is a bug, "per se" ignores whether or not it is desirable or helpful behavior.

        Hmm, its an optional option that you turned on in your program -- I'm not sure how that is related to desireability and helpfulness

        If you want it and its helpful for you, turn it on

        If you do not want it and its not helpful for you, turn it off

        But that gets back to the purpose of the software being to *help* the users of it -- not to gratify the ego of those who dominate it -- an opinion that I definitely seem to be in a minority of around here.

        Your attitude stinks.

        Well, sorry, but I think that isn't very reasonable either;