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Re^2: Weekly changes in and around Perl 6
by hominid (Priest) on Feb 17, 2014 at 21:39 UTC
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Re^2: Weekly changes in and around Perl 6
by BrowserUk (Patriarch) on Feb 17, 2014 at 23:25 UTC
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Am I doing it right?
Hm. Depends. Are you hoping to capture the essence of the knee-jerks; or that of the logisticians?
Perl6 news will be relevant when:
- It can solve Knuth's Algorithm X as fast, or faster, than Perl5. And ...
- grep a text file, filtering a subset specified by a non-trivial regex, as fast or faster than Perl 5. And ...
- Find the median of an unsorted array of 1e6 numerical values as fast or faster then Perl5.
Until then, it is an also-ran.
With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
"Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.
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I’ll preface by saying again, though I’d like to see it happen, I have no investment in perl6; I’m not hurt if it never appears in a form most of us would agree is good to go. But! By your definition, various versions of perl5 were never “news” and by implication should never have been posted here since some releases have had slowdowns over predecessors.
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Hmmmmm... Perl 5 had users. perl-6 has announcements.
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"Until then, it is an also-ran."
I don't know. Python is typically slower than Perl for these sorts of tasks, but it's not an also-ran.
If Perl 6 can perform these tasks even 10% to 20% slower than Perl 5, it could still form a more attractive proposition if it leads to clearer and more maintainable code.
use Moops; class Cow :rw { has name => (default => 'Ermintrude') }; say Cow->new->name
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If Perl 6 can perform these tasks even 10% to 20% slower than Perl 5, it could still form a more attractive proposition
I agree. I really meant in the same ballpark, preferably in the same quadrant.
More specifically, if it can recurse; process files and perform math at roughly the same performance as Perl5; I think it would start to get people trying it out. But last time I looked -- a while since -- it was no where near.
With the rise and rise of 'Social' network sites: 'Computers are making people easier to use everyday'
Examine what is said, not who speaks -- Silence betokens consent -- Love the truth but pardon error.
"Science is about questioning the status quo. Questioning authority".
In the absence of evidence, opinion is indistinguishable from prejudice.
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Re^2: Weekly changes in and around Perl 6
by Anonymous Monk on Feb 17, 2014 at 23:03 UTC
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Wowowow! You helped me realize that all of my criticisms of perl-6 were trolling behavior cos my parents never loved me as a child. You have brought enlightenment to me. I am going to deploy a program written in the production-ready Rakudo Star this afternoon after my tears of joy dry.
Or not, cos it's still the IT equivalent of Intelligent Design where if people only BELIEVED hard enough then it would work out.
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Ah, so there was an ad hominem in my reply. I’m sure your parents loved you just fine. An older brother might have helped though.
Perl6 news is relevant to the site, it’s interesting to many of us and ignorable by the rest, and quitting or remaining silent just because anonymous gainsayers pile-on… would be silly. I personally don't care if perl6 is delivered/done—frankly, it intimidates me as it’s designed for hackers who have harder CS/math skills than I do—so it’s not a matter of belief but simple courtesy. The relentless and redundant attacks on the most trivial updates is just stupid and I thought I'd proactively shut one of these threads down for once. Backfire away if compelled.
I raise your Intelligent Design analogy by labeling you the hacker equivalent of a slut shamer. How many compilers one writes or how many times one starts over on a spec isn’t a good reason to judge something bad.
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I'm judging their inability to finish things. The spec may or may not be bad but until Rakudo stops rewriting everything from scratch and produces something the average punter is actually willing to use no one can truly judge if the spec is good, bad or indifferent.
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Re^2: Weekly changes in and around Perl 6
by Anonymous Monk on Feb 18, 2014 at 00:34 UTC
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Am I doing it right? Uh oh, mother found the "oregano" stash
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