Re: Re (tilly) 5: Speed, and my sanity.

Does it really make a tremendous difference whether your external process is a webserver or a dedicated application server like you recommend?

Yes, it does. If it's an application server I only have to set one piece of software up and maintain it as changes to the site happen; if it's another apache instance, then I have to maintain two.

Apologies if I sound rude; but I've heard far too many people preaching the wonders of mod_perl, when it's really quite a silly idea.

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Re: Re: Re (tilly) 5: Speed, and my sanity. by blakem (Monsignor) on Aug 27, 2001 at 23:53 UTC
I would heartilly disagree... it's quite possible to have a single httpd binary and two config files. Perhaps you should read the article I mentioned about properly setting this up... I would argue that this is as easy, if not easier than so-called "application servers" (Note: the only branded "application server" I have ever worked with is Vignette's Story Server (awful), so perhaps I am just jaded by that term) Or, perhaps, I'm just spoiled by having access to the apache internals w/o having to code in c. Besides, your initial gripe was about heavy procs being network bound. That is a sign of a poorly set up mod_perl shop. The proxy solution winnows that gripe down to "but then I have to maintain another conf file" which carries about 1/1000th the weight of your original complaint. -Blake	[reply]

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Re: Re: Re (tilly) 5: Speed, and my sanity.
by blakem (Monsignor) on Aug 27, 2001 at 23:53 UTC

properly

I would argue that this is as easy, if not easier than so-called "application servers" (Note: the only branded "application server" I have ever worked with is Vignette's Story Server (awful), so perhaps I am just jaded by that term)

Or, perhaps, I'm just spoiled by having access to the apache internals w/o having to code in c.

Besides, your initial gripe was about heavy procs being network bound. That is a sign of a poorly set up mod_perl shop. The proxy solution winnows that gripe down to "but then I have to maintain another conf file" which carries about 1/1000th the weight of your original complaint.

-Blake

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