Re^5: Perl::Minimal -- the good, bad, and the ugly...

Honestly. In my experience, it's pretty difficult to feel confident that you can safely expose PHP in the wild.

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I should probably note; I'm speaking largely from a Service Provider standpoint.

Interesting you say that. A few years ago, I was commenting on how few hosting services allow Perl while PHP was nearly ubiquitous. The co-worker I was chatting claimed that Perl is too powerful and assumes the coder knows what she/he is doing, while PHP assumes the coder is an idiot. Therefore, hosting services are much more comfortable with PHP than with Perl.

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Re^6: Perl::Minimal -- the good, bad, and the ugly... by taint (Chaplain) on May 31, 2014 at 02:58 UTC
WOOT! That's rich. I really don't want to take this off topic. But I'll say this much. I can tell you at any given point in time, which (PHP) apps are vulnerable, as my logs are flooded with the name of the vulnerable file name. w/o fail, they all end in `.php`. On the flip side; I never see a Perl extension, nor any Perl application I am familiar with -- ever. In the end; I'll happily grant Perl access, over PHP, any day. END PHP vs Perl thread. --Chris Ąλɐp ʇɑəɹ⅁ ɐ əʌɐɥ puɐ ʻꜱdləɥ ꜱᴉɥʇ ədoH	[reply]
Re^7: Perl::Minimal -- the good, bad, and the ugly... by Anonymous Monk on Jun 03, 2014 at 04:41 UTC
On the flip side; I never see a Perl extension, nor any Perl application I am familiar with -- ever. I wouldn't get too carried away with the "Perl is more secure than PHP" rhetoric. We've had our own problems too. Like, you know, I don't suppose anyone here really wants to talk about suidperl.	[reply]
Re^8: Perl::Minimal -- the good, bad, and the ugly... by taint (Chaplain) on Jun 03, 2014 at 06:06 UTC
Ugh. Really? Sure. I'll bring it up. That was what, 5.8? OK. Ya got me. One possible issue, what, some 10 years ago? Sheesh. Now I know we're done with this subject. P.S. You do that hasn't been an option since ~5.8. Right? Ąλɐp ʇɑəɹ⅁ ɐ əʌɐɥ puɐ ʻꜱdləɥ ꜱᴉɥʇ ədoH	[reply]
Re^7: Perl::Minimal -- the good, bad, and the ugly... by astroboy (Chaplain) on Jun 05, 2014 at 00:43 UTC
"Ever"? Matt's Scripts were famous for them. I've seen a number of SQL injection attacks in Perl scripts as well.	[reply]
Re^8: Perl::Minimal -- the good, bad, and the ugly... by taint (Chaplain) on Jun 05, 2014 at 00:47 UTC
Sure. But again. How many years ago? :P --Chris Ąλɐp ʇɑəɹ⅁ ɐ əʌɐɥ puɐ ʻꜱdləɥ ꜱᴉɥʇ ədoH	[reply]
Re^9: Perl::Minimal -- the good, bad, and the ugly... by Your Mother (Archbishop) on Jun 05, 2014 at 01:32 UTC
Re^10: Perl::Minimal -- the good, bad, and the ugly... by taint (Chaplain) on Jun 05, 2014 at 01:50 UTC