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At my employer everyone who works as a scrum team member gets certified as a Scrum Master to understand the process better

Just curious, does your company similarly send folks to certification courses in other domains too? For example, are your programmers sent on Perl certification courses? Java certification courses? I'm often astonished by the willingness of companies to shell out big bucks on Scrum training, while skimping elsewhere. I mean, the modern developer has to master many different skills from many different domains, and Scrum is one of the easier ones to master without attending a formal training course IMHO. Perhaps folks push hard for Scrum Master Certification so as to "add value" to their CVs?

As you might have guessed, I'm not a fan of certifications in general, agreeing with merlyn:

I will be discouraging individuals from taking such courses, and HR people and clueless managers from looking for such certifications, particularly demanding them to be considered for an application. I will continue to work hard with my clients and my fellow contractors to have actual track records be considered, not some test one has managed to pass and pay for.

-- Perl Certification -- still Snake Oil by merlyn

Scrum makes it worse by ignoring important (but hard) agile engineering practices, and the Scrum Alliance makes it worse still with their armies of trainers--some good, some not--issuing dubious "ScrumMaster" certificates to people who demonstrated competence in connecting butt to chair for two days.

-- The Decline and Fall of Agile by James Shore

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by mr_mischief (Monsignor) on Jul 23, 2014 at 17:00 UTC

    The company actually doesn't care about the certification, at least not for developers, tech writers, and QA analysts. They care about the concepts and terminology getting disseminated to everyone involved. The certification test is free with the class, so one may as well take it.

    I'm not aware of any meaningful certification for Perl. We do have trainers come in for Perl, though. I'm sure merlyn would approve of brian_d_foy being in the building for example. He is right now as a matter of fact.

    As far as I know we have a few infrastructure things that run on JVMs but our products and our infrastructure neither one involve any in-house Java. I've read through some Clojure to get a better idea of what some third-party tools are doing but we don't write it here. We do some Ruby on my team and some C lurks in some corners in various parts of the company. I'd actually love to get a good Ruby trainer in here for a few days.