in reply to Re^6: The importance of avoiding the shell
in thread The importance of avoiding the shell
Update: And I think I've been using the shell direction wrong, because it understands it if I redirect the filehandles in a different order: ... But that this is wrong and I need to do it the other way around.
Indeed. It does seem somewhat backwards, but it has always been that way.
When 2>&1 is seen, stderr is redirected to wherever stdout is pointing at that time. If you then redirect stdout somewhere else, stderr is not then re-redirected.
So if you want to redirect both to the same place, you have to redirect stdout first; then 2>&1 does the expected thing.
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