Hmm, I made a mistake about a bug, I thought Deparse was turned on but it wasn't deparsing it was only showing do { my $o} so thats the bug I was talking about, and I was wrong about that because Deparse wasn't turned on

So I was wrong about the bug, do { my $o} is still weird as a placeholder, so I called it weird, it is weird

All that other stuff doesn't make do { my $o} any less weird as a placeholder when undef will work (its undef), its a placeholder, its gets replaced

LanX too much pendantic