Re^2: Windows Tk issue Copy and Paste Russian keyboard

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Re^3: Windows Tk issue Copy and Paste Russian keyboard by choroba (Cardinal) on May 20, 2019 at 11:25 UTC
How do you type Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V on a Russian keyboard? Are they Ctrl+Ц and Ctrl+В? `map{substr$_->[0],$_->[1]\|\|0,1}[\\|\|{},3],[[]],[ref qr-1,-,-1],[{}],[sub{}^ARGV,3]`	[reply] [d/l]
Re^4: Windows Tk issue Copy and Paste Russian keyboard by IB2017 (Pilgrim) on May 20, 2019 at 12:51 UTC
I am a bit confused. In all applications I have tried (Browser for example) I can switch keyboard layout and use Ctrl-C/V (I mean the same physical keys, not the value mapped to it) and copy and paste continues to work (I have tried with Russian, Greek, Chinese and so on). In a Tk Widget, this is not true anymore (Russian and Greek do not work anymore). As far as my (Russian) colleagues have reported that Russian copy and paste should work on Windows using the same (physical) keys we are accustomed to. If things are like this and this is not a bug, doeas it mean I need to add a `bind` to map a particular shortcut to copy/paste? This will a) need me to know the current keyboard layout (as far as I know there is no way to get it programmatically) b) code a way to perform the copy/paste operation. This sounds like quite a lot of job to have copy and paste on other layouts then Latin keyboards. Am I overseeing something?	[reply] [d/l]
Re^5: Windows Tk issue Copy and Paste Russian keyboard by Corion (Patriarch) on May 20, 2019 at 12:57 UTC
I'm not in a position to test this, but the internet suggests that Tk can also bind to a keycode, not only a character, but the solutions seem to be to bind to all keys using `KeyPress` and then to look at the keycode in the event.	[reply] [d/l]
Re^6: Windows Tk issue Copy and Paste Russian keyboard by IB2017 (Pilgrim) on May 20, 2019 at 16:04 UTC
Re^4: Windows Tk issue Copy and Paste Russian keyboard by Anonymous Monk on May 20, 2019 at 12:00 UTC
The keyboards have both layouts printed on them (otherwise it's a pain to use: imagine trying to access Perlmonks while only being able to type Cyrillic), and you just press the keys corresponding to Latin C and V, no matter which keyboard layout is active. With the most popular Cyrillic layout (that is, ЙЦУКЕН, not phonetic ЯВЕРТЫ), C corresponds to С (U+0421 CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER ES) and V corresponds to М (U+041C CYRILLIC CAPITAL LETTER EM).	[reply]
Re^5: Windows Tk issue Copy and Paste Russian keyboard by soonix (Chancellor) on May 20, 2019 at 12:22 UTC
Probably depends on the decision, wether to interpret scancodes (key positions) or characters (key meanings). In this case it's characters, and the russian layout doesn't have a C (Latin-Letter-Cee), so you can't enter Control-C, only Control-Cyrillic-Letter-Es, which leads to OP's situation.	[reply]
Re^5: Windows Tk issue Copy and Paste Russian keyboard by IB2017 (Pilgrim) on May 20, 2019 at 12:55 UTC
Thank you for the explanation: "you just press the keys corresponding to Latin C and V, no matter which keyboard layout is active" and this is exactly what is not working in Tk (while it works virtually in any other application I tried).	[reply]