in reply to Re^14: Ovid's take on the renaming of "Perl6" (updated)
in thread Ovid's take on the renaming of "Perl6"

PHP 5 came with a standard OO system while Perl is still promoting dozens of competing CPAN frameworks 1 1/2 decades later.

That's just nonsense. First, Perl doesn't promote one, another, or any CPAN OO frameworks. Perl is a language. Second, overwhelmingly most professional Perl programmers I am aware of use Moo, with some sticking to the predecessor Moose. No one I know uses bless, and there is no steep learning curve to 

package MyClass;
use Moo;
has some_attr => ( is => 'ro' );
sub some_func { uc(shift->some_attr) } # eg
1;

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Maybe you should sit down and spend a couple of hours with one of Gabor's tutorials and gain some relevant skills instead of just yammering about historical meta-questions and adding more and more confusion to the debate through your ill-informed commmentary?


The way forward always starts with a minimal test.

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Re^16: Ovid's take on the renaming of "Perl6" (updated)
by choroba (Cardinal) on Sep 10, 2019 at 17:07 UTC
    > there is no steep learning curve

    Unfortunately, there is. See How Moose made me a bad OO programmer for some examples - I don't agree with everything the presenter says (and you might notice me suggesting a different approach), but the underlying message is true: has means several things at the same time and it's pretty hard to understand it.

    Update: The main problem is that Moo(se) doesn't distinguish between cached constructor arguments and public attributes of the object syntactically.

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Re^16: Ovid's take on the renaming of "Perl6" (updated)
by Anonymous Monk on Sep 09, 2019 at 09:03 UTC
    Perl doesn't promote one, another, or any CPAN OO frameworks.

    Sorry to crash the party but the first half of perlootut teaches "Object-Oriented Programming in Perl" while simultaneously saying things like "we strongly suggest you don't build your objects from scratch" at least 5 times. The last section "PERL OO SYSTEMS" then "strongly recommends" using Moose or Moo or Class::Accessor or Class::Tiny or "literally dozens of other OO-related modules on CPAN".

    But I never use anything other than bless to roll my own objects... *shrug*

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Re^16: Ovid's take on OOP
by Anonymous Monk on Sep 09, 2019 at 08:45 UTC
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