Naming problems are not logical and should only be addressed when they pose a real problem.

For instance Pennsylvania Dutch is a misnomer. It's not Dutch it's a High German° dialect.

Or is "Dutch" a misnomer? Since it's just the English prononciation of Deutsch.

Or is "German" a misnomer and should be called Dutch in English?

Or should Austria, Switzerland and the Benelux countries sue Germany for using the name "Deutschland" exclusively?

Too theoretical?

What about Canadians being North Americans but not Americans...

What about Brittany not being part of Great Britain?

FWIW: they should have named it "Perl++" ( and that right from the beginning) and I bet that's what's going to happen in the end.

update

°) formerly also known as High Dutch

I say: Wait and see.

If you mean to wait until perl6.org has become raku-lang.org and the rename has really been completed, then I fully agree! (And I should have probably said this in the root node.)

But if you mean to wait for something else, then I ask, wait for what? In the situation I mentioned, people wouldn't even consider asking a Raku question on PerlMonks because it's not clear they can. And yes, I'm aware it's a hypothetical, but OTOH, it doesn't make sense to me to e.g. "wait" for some other website (SO) to become more popular than PM for Raku questions before clarifying a policy that was already present in the first place.

BTW, from your earlier post:

And we have many slightly off topic discussions here around JavaScript, SQL or Python.

My understanding from the gods' posts on this topic so far is that the point is that Raku / Perl 6 questions are not off-topic, i.e. the policy isn't "we tolerate Raku posts here the same way we tolerate other OT posts sometimes", but instead "despite the name, PerlMonks is for Raku as well". But that's just my interpretation, so perhaps the gods could clarify at some point.

> But if you mean to wait for something else, then I ask, wait for what?

some time. (weeks, month, years)

> question on PerlMonks because it's not clear they can.

probably the gods would consider adding a "Seeker of Raku Questions" section if the need arises.

Personally I doubt this will happen soon.

In the meantime:

• Canadians still pass as Americans (and vice versa)
• Austrian-Americans are still subsumed under German-Americans
• And only morons will object if someone asks a question still using the "Perl6" name.

IMHO the real problems are

• PM doesn't have a working tag system
• the topics are too narrowly restricted (e.g. I'd enjoy seeing more JS questions here)

Cheers Rolf
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Considering the number of Perl6 related posts other than the lengthy "please rename the thing at last" threads either the people that care about that language already found some other place for their discussions or there's so few of them that it doesn't matter whether they post something here from time to time or not. Even I think it's more of the first.

So wait for what? Wait to see whether it's something that needs to be solved. If the Raku people need PerlMonks, they'll post here and if the number of posts is high enough, it makes sense to make an official policy. If they do not need PerlMonks, then whatever you write into the policy is irrelevant anyway.

Jenda
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not a manual!

For instance Pennsylvania Dutch is a misnomer. It's not Dutch it's a High German° dialect.

I don't how high a german this really is. wiki link When I hear germanic languages in the US midwest, it sounds low to me, but to hear a few is not to form a robust statistic. What it reminds me of is the plattdeutsch that was spoken in the regions around Kassel.

How has one done if one has a sub-par performance in golf?

There are two meanings of "High German" and even many Germans get confused.
• Upper German (Southern German) and Central German dialects
• Standard German
Modern Standard German today is a polycentric mix of South German vocabulary, East German grammar (due to Martin Luther's Bible) and North German pronunciation.

This explains why you think a high German dialect doesn't sound like high German for you.

But the term is originally meant in geographical sense because Low German was spoken in the low parts and High German in the "high lands" approaching the Alps.

Anyway it's a gradual dialect continuum, the "borders" are only defined by consonant shifts like s to sh.

An original Hamburger (not the sandwich) like late Helmuth Schmidt pronounced st in "Stein" like in English "stone" and not like Shtein.

And in the South West and Switzerland you'll often hear "du hast" pronounced like "du hasht".

But be assured people from the Palatine which is a neighbouring region to where I live have no big problems understanding Pennsylvania Dutch.

Cheers Rolf
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