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in thread Inclusion of Raku on PerlMonks

Hi Liz

> I hope you understand.

Sorry, no I don't.

Your statement is of big "political" importance and PM is one of the main media of the community. ( Sorry, I didn't follow your statements on other channels)

I always fought hard to keep this community open for diverse opinions and constructive discussions and am sad when the system folds to trolling.

So out of respect to us who played fair, please bother for 5 minutes to get your password mailed.

Cheers Rolf
(addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
Wikisyntax for the Monastery FootballPerl is like chess, only without the dice

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Re^5: Inclusion of Raku on PerlMonks
by liz (Monsignor) on Oct 15, 2019 at 18:57 UTC
    Your statement is of big "political" importance and PM is one of the main media of the community.
    A PerlMonks community who has time and time again made me feel unwelcome. So I don't see the big political importance. if anything, what I say here has proven to be not very important.

    I always fought hard to keep this community open for diverse opinions and constructive discussions and am sad when the system folds to trolling.
    I know your pain. I am also sad that I had to "fold" from my views, in order to get Perl 6 renamed. I think we are in a new reality now, where forces in the communities want to distance themselves from each other. I have given in to these forces now. If anything, my remarks were intended to allow more rest in the monastery.

    So out of respect to us who played fair, please bother for 5 minutes to get your password mailed.
    So done, and now I will immediately delete that mail again. I don't intend to come back here. I wish the PerlMonks and the Perl 5 community best of luck in their future endeavours. I'm no longer part of them anymore.
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      I will always be grateful for your participation in Perl.

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        I back that up.

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      I echo the others' sentiments. You were always a force for good, liz. I personally regret that things were said here which make you want to leave. :-(

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      Sad you feel that way. We'll always love you liz.

      Cheers, Sören

      Créateur des bugs mobiles - let loose once, run everywhere.
      (hooked on the Perl Programming language)

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      Thank you for answering! Now it's official. :(

      I'm really sorry if a very small minority here made you feel not welcomed.

      It's one thing to argue about differing opinions , another to byte people away.

      Sad day...

      Cheers Rolf
      (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
      Wikisyntax for the Monastery FootballPerl is like chess, only without the dice

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      The path to hell is paved with good intentions.

      The intention behind Perl 6 was good, there is no doubt about that.

      It hurt Perl reputation nevertheless and the stubborn refusal to rename "the next version of Perl" to "project whatever that might become some future version of Perl" when it became clear that it's not going to be anywhere near complete any year soon was a big part of that. The project should have NEVER been called Perl 6!

      Jenda
      1984 was supposed to be a warning,
      not a manual!

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        Nonsense. Perl was becoming the despised step child of programming languages and being rejected at all the big shops like Amazon and Yahoo *before* Perl6 was even conceived. I was at Amazon then and watched it unfold under the bootheel of Java and the giddiness for Ruby. Perl6 did, however, help with the resuscitation of Perl5 c 2005. None of the negativity or attacks on Perl6 here have ever helped Perl5 in the slightest; only increased acrimony and sent users like liz who had straddled and contributed to both worlds away.

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