Re^2: Stop Using Perl

Nowadays anyone can call himself a "researcher" and give speeches

So it seems. Googling for "Netanel Rubin" does not show any evidence of Perl (or Python for that matter) expertise. At least, I couldn't find any substantial code written by this guy. BTW, that is in stark contrast to Felix von Leitner (Fefe), who clearly is an accomplished programmer with lots of runs on the board. I couldn't find any runs on the board for Netanel and, in his first talk, I'm afraid he didn't score any.

What I found offensive was his crude use of propaganda in the camel images accompanying the slides, and in the talk itself. At the start of the talk, for example, after acknowledging that this is his first talk, he urges the audience to say "F*** Perl". Breathtaking. Did his company really give permission to deliver such a vulgar talk?

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reddit discussion of Perl Jam talk in which Netanel Rubin replies that he is not a "Pythonista" (I see no evidence that he is an accomplished programmer in any language) and, embarrassingly, continues to display his ignorance of modern Perl, for which he is taken to task as "a complete novice who never even bothered to learn the language, and is instead relying on popular culture definitions of the language they heard from their equally ignorant peers". Other responses: "the idea that you expect foo($scalar, @array) to be called as if @array were an array reference is just nonsense ... that you showed those slides that claimed that that behavior was unexpected is the very definition of a straw man argument" and "Your argument is incoherent, reflects a misunderstanding of the nature of technical debt and the constraints of project maintenance with limited developer time, and is just about valid as an attack on Perl-as-of-2001 but makes no sense as a complaint against Perl-as-of-2014".
Bugzilla bug report in which Checkpoint are taken to task for disclosing the vulnerability to the media before Bugzilla had a chance to fix it and for exaggerating the severity of this vulnerability.

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Re^3: Stop Using Perl by LanX (Saint) on Jan 01, 2015 at 22:02 UTC
> Breathtaking. Did his company really give permission to deliver such a vulgar talk? It's an Israeli company, the military has such a strong influence on formation in this society that being offensive (for European standards) is considered a virtue. I have many friends who came back (often after visiting family) and complained about the "lack of good manners"˛. See also Getting behind Israeli 'frankness' š IOW many don't shy away to risk talking bullshit, they expect you to talk back and give them reasons to shut up. In this sense, Mr Rubin yes you are a prick who didn't do his homework and this unprofessional talk will backfire on you! :) Cheers Rolf _{(addicted to the Perl Programming Language and ☆☆☆☆ :)} š) Though after reading this blog Are Israeli rude I see Central Europeans somehow in the middle between Israeli rudeness and American "passive aggressiveness" ... of course well balanced! ;D ˛) politely phrased (pun intended ;) update see also Haaretz # Can Israelis learn to have better manners?	[reply]
Re^3: Stop Using Perl by zwon (Abbot) on Jan 01, 2015 at 18:32 UTC
At the start of the talk, for example, after acknowledging that this is his first talk, he urges the audience to say "F*** Perl". Breathtaking. Did his company really give permission to deliver such a vulgar talk? I think guy was inspired by Eran Hammer's talk about OAuth ;) As for company's permission, from marketing point of view it is most important to be talked about, and a bit of vulgarity and strong statements help to achieve this goal, no matter if they are correct or wrong as long as they are resonate with the target audience, so sure, why not.	[reply]
Re^4: Stop Using Perl by eyepopslikeamosquito (Archbishop) on Jan 01, 2015 at 19:24 UTC
so sure, why not Well, maybe any publicity is good publicity, but I would have thought the company would want to protect its brand as being skilful, knowledgeable and professional. I can't imagine anything less professional than dropping the F-word in every second sentence throughout a presentation, while being embarrassingly wrong on the technical content.	[reply]
Re^4: Stop Using Perl by ww (Archbishop) on Jan 01, 2015 at 19:53 UTC
A politican in Massachusetts is said to have commented on his bad press by saying something to the general effect of: Say anything you want about me, but spell my name right! His point was the same as zwon's: that he welcomed publicity of any sort because name recognition is so important in an election. But, at that time, the language used in the public press was rather more ~~discreet~~ ...er ~~genteel~~ ...uh, constrained by contemporary community standards. I don't know which way the balance tips for Checkpoint, but the "F-word" and several others would have been way beyond the pale for any of my employers. Spirit of the Monastery	[reply] [d/l]

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