That's a good question. I'm not the one with the itch this won't scratch. Maybe that's the problem. People don't know what they want. The most I ever learned about Perl was when I decided to tackle OOP many moons ago. It pulls in a large number of existing, very powerful features that worked beautifully together. As a result, I not only learned how to put them together, I had those constituent parts at my disposal as well (closures over subs for RO, e.g.). If more people took the time to learn the MEAT, they wouldn't be asking for the sugar. Let's bring classic oop back. Surely Damian would like to sell some more books circa 2000. It's all I ever needed.