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in thread What's happening in this expression?

You are right. My variables are not always treated correctly, although recently the situation improved. I remember that in the past you just can't work with my variables at all. I just have a utility that stripped my moving them to tail comments and then reversed the situation. But now the usage of my "official" as it is forced by the strict pragma. Which means that such a situation is less acceptable.

Also if you are using recursion my attribute can't be stripped at all. So this is a clear deficiently.

That's sad, because IMHO the debugger is the crown jewel of Perl language environment and remains in certain areas unmatched by competition(macros, flexibility of c command, etc.) Possibility of b lineno ($var eq "value") is indispensable for debugging complex programs. That's what I always stress in my Perl advocacy efforts" "Unmatched by competition."

So any deficiencies here are "highly undesirable."

That's, of course, raises the question of development priorities...

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Re^5: What's happening in this expression?
by haukex (Archbishop) on Oct 15, 2020 at 09:20 UTC
    I remember that in the past you just can't work with my variables at all.

    Lexcial variables (my) were introduced in Perl 5.000, in 1994 - in fact, Perl 5.000's 26th birthday is in two days.

    ... my attribute can't be stripped at all. So this is a clear deficiently. ... the debugger ... is indispensable for debugging complex programs.

    You seem to be implying that the debugger can't handle lexical variables in the programs one is debugging, which is not correct. The debugger, when used as a REPL, has a few limitations - but it's a debugger, not a REPL. If you're looking for REPLs, see e.g.:

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      While I was unclear, you missed the context:
      I remember that in the past you just can't work with my variables at all. I just have a utility that stripped my moving them to tail comments and then reversed the situation. But now the usage of my "official" as it is forced by the strict pragma. Which means that such a situation is less acceptable.
      I meant in debugger, not in the language
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        While I was unclear, you missed the context

        I did read all of your post, twice in fact, and a third time now (did you edit it?), and I'm sorry, but I still don't understand the point you're trying to make here - how is a utility that munges mys related to anything I said? Anyway, since you're talking about deficiencies, i.e. things that could potentially be considered bugs, I think that it would be better if you could show with runnable code what exactly the issues are that you are having - a Short, Self-Contained, Correct Example.

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