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Interesting. When viewing the page not logged in, Firefox reports the following info:

When logged in, Firefox reports the following info:

Why would the encoding be different? I think the browser is inferring the encoding from the page's content... and the content is different if you're logged in.

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Re^3: PerlMonks main page: garbled character encoding
by LanX (Saint) on Mar 22, 2021 at 14:26 UTC
    Firefox shows me the HTTP header Content-Type:text/html when I'm not logged in.

    The ; charset=Windows-1252 part is missing.

    HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 14:27:09 GMT
Server: Apache
Last-Modified: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 14:27:05 GMT
ETag: "efc2-5be20dc244d70"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 61378
Keep-Alive: timeout=5, max=98
Connection: Keep-Alive
Content-Type: text/html

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    A check in Chrome shows the same:

    HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 14:19:57 GMT
Server: Apache
Last-Modified: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 14:18:09 GMT
ETag: "effb-5be20bc33b176"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 61435
Content-Type: text/html

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    Logged in (FF)

    HTTP/2 200 OK
date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 14:24:41 GMT
server: Apache
content-type: text/html; charset=Windows-1252
X-Firefox-Spdy: h2

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    Cheers Rolf
    (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
    Wikisyntax for the Monastery

    update

    That's RAT no log-in ... charset=Windows-1252 is back

    HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 15:15:43 GMT
Server: Apache
Keep-Alive: timeout=5, max=100
Connection: Keep-Alive
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Content-Type: text/html; charset=Windows-1252

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      OK, that would suggest that it's the server, rather than the browser, making the (weird) charset determination. In any case, I'm 99.9% sure it's not the PM Engine doing it.

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        I can confirm with curl that I receive different headers from the server, depending on whether or not I send my login cookie. (I obfuscated the value of my cookie for pasting.) This agrees with what I see in Chrome's developer tools network inspection, which lists headers without a charset in anonymous/incognito, vs headers with charset in my tab where I'm logged in.

        C:\Users\Peter>curl --head https://perlmonks.org
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 22:14:50 GMT
Server: Apache
Upgrade: h2,h2c
Connection: Upgrade
Last-Modified: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 22:12:10 GMT
ETag: "ee70-5be275b693fc1"
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Content-Length: 61040
Content-Type: text/html


C:\Users\Peter>curl --cookie "userpass=XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX" -
+-head https://perlmonks.org
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 22:14:26 GMT
Server: Apache
Upgrade: h2,h2c
Connection: Upgrade
Content-Type: text/html; charset=Windows-1252

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        -- edit: sorry, first time I posted, I misread the statement, so I deleted one sentence where I commented based on my misreading.

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Re^3: PerlMonks main page: garbled character encoding
by footpad (Abbot) on Mar 22, 2021 at 21:55 UTC
    In this day and age, one wonders why we're not using: 
    <!DOCTYPE html>

<head>
    <meta charset="utf-8">
    <!-- ... -->

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    --f

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