What are the formatting rules for the "Title" of posts?

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Re: What are the formatting rules for the "Title" of posts? () (updated) by LanX (Saint) on Jun 20, 2021 at 10:03 UTC
Usingen square brackets in titles is not a good idea. Use round ones like I did. The monastery is not consistent here, they might be rendered as links when the titles are listed elsewhere. I think you've been bitten by side effects meant to avoid this. Now trying: `()` Cheers Rolf _{(addicted to the Perl Programming Language :) Wikisyntax for the Monastery} Update For clarification: a title is supposed to be verbatim like a code section. That means escaping of any HTML markup `<tag>` HTML entities `&...;` PM link syntax `[]` Unfortunately and inconsistently are node titles sometimes listed in templates without escaping these markups `<>&[]` leading to false interpretation. Even the documentation here is misleading, like one help node suggesting to introduce `[OT]` for off topic title.	[reply] [d/l] [select]
Re^2: What are the formatting rules for the "Title" of posts? () by davies (Monsignor) on Jun 20, 2021 at 11:14 UTC
To me, Re: What are the formatting rules for the "Title" of posts? () (updated) appears as you intend on Recently Active Threads, but with nothing in the brackets in the thread view. Consistency is overrated. :-) Regards, John Davies	[reply]
Re^3: What are the formatting rules for the "Title" of posts? () by LanX (Saint) on Jun 20, 2021 at 11:19 UTC
Hence my reply (and update) :) Cheers Rolf _{(addicted to the Perl Programming Language :) Wikisyntax for the Monastery}	[reply]
Re^2: What are the formatting rules for the "Title" of posts? (&#8203;) by LanX (Saint) on Jun 20, 2021 at 10:17 UTC
Ok while my title rendered fine in RAT and previews it fails in thread view when opening the OP. Call it a bug and avoid entities in titles. Now trying: `(&#8203;)` Cheers Rolf _{(addicted to the Perl Programming Language :) Wikisyntax for the Monastery}	[reply] [d/l]
Re^3: What are the formatting rules for the "Title" of posts? [&#8203;] [&#8203;] [&#8203;] (&#8203;) (&#8203;) (&#8203;) by kcott (Archbishop) on Jun 20, 2021 at 19:17 UTC
Just a test with all variations of brackets, parentheses, and `&` forms: `[&#8203;] [&#8203;] [&#8203;] (&#8203;) (&#8203; +) (&#8203;)` [download] Preview shows exactly the same as shown in the `<code>` block above. Now let's see what happens when I post this. Update after posting: What I saw in Preview is exactly the same as I now see in the individual node, ~~the entire thread~~, Newest Nodes, and RAT. Update after looking more closely: Sorry, what I said in the last update about the "the entire thread" is incorrect. When I look at the whole thread, all the various `&` references are resolved; giving this title: `Re^3: What are the formatting rules for the "Title" of posts? [ +] [] [] () () ()` [download] — Ken	[reply] [d/l] [select]
Re^3: What are the formatting rules for the "Title" of posts? (TEST & & <b>B</b> [lanx]) by LanX (Saint) on Jun 20, 2021 at 19:15 UTC
TEST `(& & <b>B</b> [lanx])` (& & B lanx)) update as we can see are entities and html-tags not escaped, if a title is displayed as reply in a thread: Like in the Re:^4 shown beneath this node as Re^4: What are the formatting rules for the "Title" of posts? (TEST & & B [lanx]) [id://11134082] by LanX on Jun 20, 2021 at 21:32 CEST But it should show: Re^4: What are the formatting rules for the "Title" of posts? (TEST & & <b>B</b> [lanx]) [id://11134082] by LanX on Jun 20, 2021 at 21:32 CEST Cheers Rolf _{(addicted to the Perl Programming Language :) Wikisyntax for the Monastery}	[reply] [d/l]
Re^4: What are the formatting rules for the "Title" of posts? (TEST & & <b>B</b> [lanx]) by LanX (Saint) on Jun 20, 2021 at 19:32 UTC
Re^5: What are the formatting rules for the "Title" of posts? (FIXED) by LanX (Saint) on Jun 21, 2021 at 16:44 UTC
Re^2: What are the formatting rules for the "Title" of posts? () (updated) by kcott (Archbishop) on Jun 20, 2021 at 20:15 UTC
G'day Rolf, Thanks for the feedback and various test examples. I'll aim to reply to everything here to avoid instances of one of us posting while the other is composing (e.g. the nodes `11134079`^link and `11134080`^link). It also keeps everything together instead of bits scattered throughout the thread. As far as I know, I've always used `[...]` without any problems or comment on this usage. I noted your test with `[lanx]` didn't generate an additional link in the title. There are clearly inconsistencies between the rendering of titles on various pages: even a single node's title can look different when viewed in its thread or by itself. Thanks for taking the time to commit a patch. Unfortunately, I get "Tough beans." (permission denied) so I can't comment further on that. If the issues can't be easily resolved — due to code complexity, testing difficulties, etc. — perhaps a documentation page with basic instructions could at least help to avoid the problems. I'm thinking along the lines of: don't include markup; don't use entities; and so on. — Ken	[reply] [d/l] [select]
Re^3: What are the formatting rules for the "Title" of posts? () by LanX (Saint) on Jun 20, 2021 at 20:56 UTC
Hello Ken, > perhaps a documentation page with basic instructions could at least help to avoid the problems It's a certainly a bug and must be fixed ASAP ... Thanks for reporting! :) Cheers Rolf _{(addicted to the Perl Programming Language :) Wikisyntax for the Monastery}	[reply]

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