Re: Demotions of monks

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Re^2: Demotions of monks by syphilis (Archbishop) on Jan 05, 2022 at 11:38 UTC
I simply renamed the level That you renamed it to a term whose meaning is female-exclusive is, I think, the most interesting aspect of that change. Cheers, Rob	[reply]
Re^3: Demotions of monks by erzuuli (Cannon) on Jan 05, 2022 at 14:03 UTC
fyi, "pope" means "father", so...	[reply]
Re^4: Demotions of monks by LanX (Saint) on Jan 05, 2022 at 16:02 UTC
Patriarch and Pope ("pappas") both derive from the Greek word for father. AFAICS did the Latin church borrow the title from some Eastern Churches, the Coptic Patriarch is still referred to as Pope ("Al Baba"). Update Compare also Patriarch of the West Cheers Rolf _{(addicted to the Perl Programming Language :) Wikisyntax for the Monastery}	[reply]
Re^5: Demotions of monks by LanX (Saint) on Jan 06, 2022 at 14:26 UTC
Re^4: Demotions of monks by syphilis (Archbishop) on Jan 06, 2022 at 09:09 UTC
fyi, "pope" means "father", so... ... so there's even more gender-bias than I had noticed !! Has it actually been ascertained that if the Vatican was to appoint a female Pope in the future that she could not be referred to as "the pope" ? I'm guessing that the notion of a female Pope is so unthinkable to the Vatican (and its adherents), that her actual title has not yet been considered. Cheers, Rob	[reply]
Re^5: Demotions of monks by choroba (Cardinal) on Jan 06, 2022 at 09:46 UTC
Re^5: Demotions of monks by LanX (Saint) on Jan 06, 2022 at 14:10 UTC
Re^3: Demotions of monks by davido (Cardinal) on Jan 05, 2022 at 17:55 UTC
Parriarch might be less specific, although more obscure. Dave	[reply]
Re^3: Demotions of monks by Anonymous Monk on Jan 05, 2022 at 11:48 UTC
It's ok, none of them are female.	[reply]
Re^3: Demotions of monks (updated) by LanX (Saint) on Jan 05, 2022 at 12:00 UTC
> renamed it to a term whose meaning is female-exclusive is Wat is she talking is??? Cheers Rolf _{(addicted to the Perl Programming Language :) Wikisyntax for the Monastery} update confusing patriarch with matriarch?	[reply]
Re^4: Demotions of monks (updated) by Ratazong (Monsignor) on Jan 05, 2022 at 13:23 UTC
confusing patriarch with matriarch? What about renaming the rank to pmatriarch? That would include the male AND the female form, and is also a play on the abbreviation of our site .... We could also determine the name of the rank below vroom by a poll ... Have a great 2022! Rata	[reply]
Re^5: Demotions of monks (gender bender) by LanX (Saint) on Jan 05, 2022 at 13:40 UTC
Re^6: Demotions of monks (updated) by jdporter (Paladin) on Jan 05, 2022 at 14:07 UTC
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Re^2: Demotions of monks by 1nickt (Canon) on Jan 05, 2022 at 12:32 UTC
In my opinion this was an ill-advised change for the worse. Please go back to Pope. The way forward always starts with a minimal test.	[reply]
Re^3: Demotions of monks by erzuuli (Cannon) on Jan 05, 2022 at 14:04 UTC
I'm open to hearing your arguments. To be clear: "it's worse" isn't an argument.	[reply]
Re^4: Demotions of monks by 1nickt (Canon) on Jan 06, 2022 at 11:33 UTC
I think that "Patriarch" is way more, um, patriarchal that Pope. It's the essence of patriarchy, surely? The word "Pope" may have roots in "father" but it now means "head of church". This does bring up the singularity question. Why not make Vroom the Pope, and the current Popes/Patriarchs can have a different title? Maybe just "Eminence"? One Pope to rule them all ... Or ... since as someone pointed out Sainthood is achieved post-mortem, make vroom the only Saint, leave the Popes as is, and rename the Saint level ... maybe to "Assistant at the Pontifical Throne" (definition)? The way forward always starts with a minimal test.	[reply]
Re^5: Demotions of monks by jdporter (Paladin) on Jan 07, 2022 at 16:39 UTC

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