in reply to Re^5: How can I set a bit to 0 ?
in thread How can I set a bit to 0 ?

There were no replies when I started to compose my post. I got distracted midway and, when I did post, I saw ikegami had replied

Yes - I have a similar policy. If there's no replies when I start composing one, I just send my post off anyway, as soon as it's finished.
It's a policy that has been known to result in egg on face - but egg is good for the complexion ... so it's "Win-Win!!".

The interesting thing with this thread is that I can't see how any of the replies (including GF's diversion) relate to the original post.

bartender1382 posts some nonsensical snippet that doesn't even compile ... and everyone has a ready made solution !!
GrandFather is even able to provide some evaluation of the different approaches !!

I am clearly unfit to sit at the same table ;-)

Cheers,
Rob

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Re^7: How can I set a bit to 0 ?
by LanX (Saint) on May 27, 2022 at 13:12 UTC
    > bartender1382 posts some nonsensical snippet that doesn't even compile ... and everyone has a ready made solution !!

    you seem to miss that he's using constants, like so often in bit operations.

    DB<44> use constant {upload =>0b1, getTicket =>0b10, downLoading=>0b +100}; DB<45> use warnings; use strict; say my $stats = upload | getTicket +| downLoading; 7 DB<46>

    > The interesting thing with this thread is that I can't see how any of the replies (including GF's diversion) relate to the original post.

    Now I'd be interested to know how I failed to answer exactly the question given in a concise way, especially given the level of the OP.

    Plus explanation most others were lacking including the correct terminology and multiple further read-more links.

    Cheers Rolf
    (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
    Wikisyntax for the Monastery

      you seem to miss that he's using constants

      You seem to assume that he's using constants ;-)

      Unfortunately, he hasn't provided the definitions of those labels, let alone an SSCCE, so it's all guesswork.


      🦛

        > You seem to assume that he's using constants

        Question: is there any other strict explanation for barewords as operands?

        I've seen this pattern so many times with modules exporting flags and IIRC even perldocs°, that this discussion is surprising me.

        Cheers Rolf
        (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
        Wikisyntax for the Monastery

        update

        °) see last paragraph in chmod

          You can also import the symbolic S_I* constants from the Fcntl module:

          use Fcntl qw( :mode ); chmod S_IRWXU|S_IRGRP|S_IXGRP|S_IROTH|S_IXOTH, @executables; # Identical to the chmod 0755 of the example above.
      Now I'd be interested to know how I failed to answer exactly the question given in a concise way, especially given the level of the OP.

      I didn't say that you (or anyone else) had failed to answer the question.
      All I said was that I couldn't see how the answers given related to the question that was asked ... for the simple reason that I couldn't work out what the question actually was (owing to lack of details given).
      Sure, I know the OP wants to set bits in something - in a PV ? in an IV ? in an NV ? in some object (maybe Math::GMP or Bit::Vector) ?

      Everyone else seems to reckon they know, and if they were able to deduce that from the original post, then well done !!
      But I don't have that level of psychic acuity.

      Cheers,
      Rob
        bit operations happen normally on unsigned integers, I'd say in >90% of the cases (at least)

        And I've already shown two instances of perldocs demonstrating exactly that pattern.

        > in a PV ? in an IV ? in an NV ?

        I reckon IV is an integer value ... please explain the rest° in this context, my perlguts are aching ;-)

        And the OP will most probably only know "scalar".

        Cheers Rolf
        (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
        Wikisyntax for the Monastery

        °) OK looking up in "Advanced Perl Programming" (sic)

        > A scalar value (SV) contains the value of the scalar, a reference count, and a bitmask to describe the state of the scalar. The scalar may be an integer value ("IV"), a double ("NV"), a string ("PV" for pointer value),

        I can't see how this is relevant here.

        update

        I mean: If someone asks how best to hold a hammer, do you complain he didn't tell you which alloy the nails are made of and where the original ore was mined? Seriously?