"Success"!!! ok, I got it to work for one file and when doing it for the 2nd file, it overwrote the first, because all the files are named "document.pdf". so I updated it to this, which isn't ideal. I would rather use the field document_id in the database instead of just getting back document0.pdf document1.pdf document2.pdf

 
$i=0;
while (my $ref = $query->fetchrow_hashref()) {
   print "url: $ref->{url}\n";
   my $ff = File::Fetch->new(uri=>$ref->{url});
   my $where = $ff->fetch( to => '/data/documents/');
      my $error= $ff->error();

   rename ("C:/data/documents/document.pdf","C:/data/documents/documen
+t$i.pdf");
 ($i++);
   }
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the other website I tried it on gave me a nasty gram of "Unable to Respond to this Request" "contact the helpdesk" But this will work for now.