Many Perl jobs are now outsourced into countries offering dumping prices. Those prices are often only tenable because the poor bastards which where hired have nearly no qualification except searching, copy&paste and flooding boards with poor requests.

A friend of mine left IBM because her department moved her Perl projects to an "hospice" in India and the new colleagues were more a bother than a help, because their Perl qualification was on paper only.

We agreed that this is like hiring a street kid to acquire the needed goods by steeling in the surrounding supermarkets.

The goods are cheaper that way, but the market and the whole ecosystem is severely damaged.

Hence I prefer telling the customers of our "supermarket", if their acquisition strategy could be "improved".

So part of this reminds me of things people used to say here, "The Irish are all idiots, and they're here to take our jobs". Having (unfortunately) spent a long time in out sourcing I'm well aware of the issues involved in farming out work to countries including India, and the cultural differences within those organisations that aren't always compatible with a more Western approach, however I quite regularly experience incompetence from 'local' hires too :) For out sourcing I think it seems worse, as something has been wholesale handed over to a third party. Third parties are rarely as engaged, be they outsourcers or local contractors in my experience. With outsourcing it just happens on a grander scale, and the cultural differences become more visible at scale.

For the records I never said, mean or think "The Indians are all idiots, and they're here to take our jobs".

It's just the biggest supplier for this dumping price model.°

But I remember a relative in London saying things alike to "The Polish immigration is a problem and they are changing my parent's neighborhood to the worse" ... (that was pre-brexit).

The Poles were just the biggest supplier of recent EU immigration to Britain.°

Interestingly are his parents Irish who immigrated about 40 years before and used to hear pretty much the same thing. So I'm not sure I disagree with your statement about the Irish ... ;-)

Cheers Rolf
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°) see also pars pro toto