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in thread Reading lines beginning with pound # ignored

In America, the telephones have

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 * 0 #
and every voice menu I've ever heard has called it "press pound sign for...". Aside from that, most usage outside of phones or business calls it "number sign" like in the stylized "#1" ("number one") written on first-place ribbons or something.

When I got started on Unix I thought "hash" was programmer slang, like "bang" is for the exclamation point. I picked it up and started using it out of a desire to join programmer culture. Now I've just learned it was a Brittish-ism :-)

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[OT] Re^3: Reading lines beginning with pound # ignored
by afoken (Chancellor) on Jun 21, 2023 at 19:08 UTC
    every voice menu I've ever heard has called it "press pound sign for..."

    In Germany, the phone key # is usually called "Raute". And it drives me nuts for decades, because a Raute is a Rhombus. But people have misnamed it for decades, and so it became an official name. It has several other, better names, see https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppelkreuz_(Schriftzeichen).

    Alexander

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      > the phone key # is usually called "Raute". ... because a Raute is a Rhombus.

      That's because the original sign on the telephone was NOT a # but ⌗ (Unicode: U+2317 viewdata square). Often inclined it looks like a rhombus °

      The # is only a replacement symbol, which made it to the computer keyboard because of it's American use for numbering things.

      The official German name I use for # is Doppelkreuz (literally "double cross")

      Doppelkreuz is also a name for other symbols like the Patriarchal_cross but that's hardly relevant in an IT context.

      Cheers Rolf
      (addicted to the 𐍀𐌴𐍂𐌻 Programming Language :)
      Wikisyntax for the Monastery

      °) look at that pic of an old phone, to discover a rhombus with overshots at the corners https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:AT%26T_push_button_telephone_western_electric_model_2500_dmg_black.jpg

Re^3: Reading lines beginning with pound # ignored
by Bod (Parson) on Jun 22, 2023 at 09:41 UTC
    In America, the telephones have...

    I had to get up the dial pad on my mobile to check 😃
    But it's the same here in the UK - at least it is on my Chinese-manufactured mobile!

    When I got started on Unix I thought "hash" was programmer slang, like "bang" is for the exclamation point. I picked it up and started using it out of a desire to join programmer culture. Now I've just learned it was a Brittish-ism :-)

    ...and one we've exported to the world through the hashtag but ironically thanks to Chris Messina, an American blogger...

    The official name for the exclamation mark or bash character is a pling. I learnt that from a school friend many, many years ago and very few people seem to ever use the term besides me and (presumably) said friend...

      "The official name for the exclamation mark or bash character is a pling." [my emphasis]

      It seems that, unless I set up an account, I'm missing some of the information presented; nonetheless, this does look more like a definition of pling than a definition of exclamation mark.

      From "The Unicode Standard, Version 15.0" list of character names: (link to PDF) "C0 Controls and Basic Latin (Range: 0000–007F)".

      U+0021 ! EXCLAMATION MARK
      Informative alias list:
          = factorial
          = bang
      Cross-reference list (items start with '→'): 9 entries.
      U+0023 # NUMBER SIGN
      Informative alias list:
          = pound sign (weight)
          = hashtag, hash
          = crosshatch, octothorpe
      Informative note list (items start with '•'): 1 entry re musical sharp.
      Cross-reference list (items start with '→'): 5 entries including some characters mentioned elsewhere in this thread (e.g. and ).

      — Ken

        Bod's confidence notwithstanding, I confess I'd never heard of pling before!

        Wiktionary lists the following synonyms for exclamation_mark:

        • exclamation
        • exclamation point (USA)
        • shriek (Britain)
        • bang (USA)
        • pling (computing)
        • astonisher
        • screamer

        as well as obsolete forms:

        • ecphoneme
        • mark of admiration
        • note of admiration
        • note of exclamation
        • note of interjection

        From the many names suggested in this thread, the only ones I've heard (in Australia) are:

        • exclamation mark
        • bang
        • shriek
        • factorial