in reply to Technobabble (was: Re: Adding recognition of Gemini to URI.pm?)
in thread Adding recognition of Gemini to URI.pm?

> (interconnected text documents). That's not a new idea, but it's not old fashioned either. It's timeless, and deserves tools which treat it as a first class concept

This needs context:

I remember people refusing to use the "new" Netscape (or even Mosaic) back then and sticking with a pure text browser like Lynx, w3m or Emacs for years...

It resonates to me now that I forbid cookies and JavaScript by default in http. This involves going thru extra complications to add exceptions for certain sites like Perlmonks.

That's of course not a 100% solution, because some sites simply won't work without me having to accept wastes of bandwidth, lag, stolen performance and attacks on privacy.¹

Gemini - without having read all specifications for the protocol -sounds like a way to me to guarantee by restrictions that all sites comply to textual browsability.

Tho I'm sceptical...

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1) For example: I'm specifically avoiding MSN News because they automatically play videos, and my android browsers have no options to forbid this.

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by ikegami (Patriarch) on Oct 12, 2024 at 15:48 UTC

    sounds like a way to me to guarantee by restrictions that all sites comply to textual browsability.

    True, but that could be better accomplished using a restrictive web client. There's no need to reinvent a whole networking architecture to refuse non-text documents. Then, instead of an unsupported Gemini protocol, you have a network of Gemini web sites that anyone can visit. And those that want to enforce a stay within the network can do so using a web browser plugin.

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      As I said I'm skeptical.

      But who am I to tell others how to launch their projects?

      The link to text browser I gave tellingly lists Gemini under "see also".

      But also Progressive enhancement which sounds promising to me.

      Saying so, this has been tried for decades, and commercial interests always found ways to circumvent it.

      Cheers Rolf
      (addicted to the Perl Programming Language :)
      see Wikisyntax for the Monastery

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        Saying so, this has been tried for decades, and commercial interests always found ways to circumvent it.

        Not only commercial interest. I'm an open source dev and i do it too. "Progressive enhancements" are anything but. It makes development of a website a pain, limits what you can achieve with the resources available and makes the end product worse for 99% of the users. Yes, i'm using (session) cookies. Yes, i am using JavaScript. It's part of the HTML standard, and if your browser vendor is unable or unwilling to integrate one of the many open source implementations, that is not my problem.

        And yes, there are text-based browsers that support JS, like browsh...

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