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in thread login with google account

Slickness and user-friendliness are in the eye of the user. I have not, to my recollection, used a slicker forum than this.

Your second sentence definitely validates the first.

Personally, this is the least slick forum I use (albeit I don't use many). Having to type in HTML markup is tedious, especially on mobile.

I totally agree with your point about pop-ups. However, PM does store a cookie so should have a cookie pop-up...for stupid regulations but rules are rules!

I've not used it enough to be sure, but I suspect Everything2 has all the advantages you quote without the hassle of having to use HTML markup and with better security.

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Re^7: login with google account
by hippo (Archbishop) on Nov 07, 2024 at 10:50 UTC
    However, PM does store a cookie so should have a cookie pop-up...for stupid regulations but rules are rules!

    Thankfully that isn't the case. Here's why:

    1. The EU Cookie Law is just that - an EU law. It applies only to sites hosted in the EU (despite the EU and the EC in particular thinking and acting like somehow their laws apply worldwide). Sites such as this which are hosted outside of their jurisdiction are not subject to their laws.
    2. Even if PerlMonks were to move to a hosting facility somewhere which is under the jurisdiction of the EU, the law makes no stipulation of a pop-up. Merely that the user is somehow informed and allowed to choose/indicate their compliance. Many of the less-annoying sites put this nonsense in a page footer so as not to get in the way. Still a complete waste of time, effort and bandwidth but far less intrusive to the browsing experience.
    3. In some jurisdictions where the law is in force (such as the one applying to you and me) purely functional cookies such as the login cookie set here are exempt anyway.

    The EU cookie law is not the worst piece of legislation to come out of the EU but it's still pretty bad. I have yet to meet anyone either within the IT industry or outside it who thinks that it has any redeeming benefit. The fact that 95% of the annoying cookie popups just vanish entirely if you disable javascript and reload the page shows how half-arsed most implementations are and nobody cares because nobody really wants it - neither the site providers nor the users.

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      Good points hippo - I'd overlooked that PM is hosted in the US - my bad!

      In some jurisdictions where the law is in force (such as the one applying to you and me) purely functional cookies such as the login cookie set here are exempt anyway.

      As I understand the legislation, session cookies for login are exempt. But, persistent cookies are not.

      Is your understanding of this different?

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        I am not aware of any distinction in the legislation between session cookies and persistent cookies. The key attribute is rather the purpose to which the cookie is put.

        If session and persistent cookies are regarded differently, it would be useful to know about it. My reading of section 6 of the PECL suggests otherwise though.

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