The most widely used IDE these days is visual studio code, which is surprisingly good, free, cross platform, and has a rich pluggin system.

That's certainly true

> has a rich pluggin system

Which can be a curse too, if it's too rich and you get lost in configuration (I'm an emacser after all ;)

Regarding out of the box features, I had good impressions from Komodo and CamelCade.

VSCode is still on my to-do list.

Cheers Rolf
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What are the preferred IDEs used by others ???

Feel free to upvote Re: poll ideas quest 2024 (IDES) - perhaps we can convince the pollsters to run it. FWIW, I use vim.

I hadn't posted that one yet because it seemed that people here don't really use IDEs.

You're probably not claiming that vim is an IDE, but having myself used vim for many years and more recently using IntelliJ (with its vim plugin), the functionality gap between them seems too big to put them in the same category.

In a sample of 1, 100% of me's use IDEs for every coding related thing I do. At $work I'm a firmware engineer and regularly use three variants of Eclipse provided by the manufacturers of the three main processors I work with. I use Visual Studio for C++ development on our flagship application, and I use Visual Code for a few miscellaneous processors and Arduino development. In choosing a processor for a project lack of a competent IDE and debug probe for a specific device is automatic disqualification.

For Perl and Python development I use Komodo or, sometimes, Visual Code for Python (especially on Pi). I've also used Visual Code for Java development.

In fact of the 30 or so developers at $work, 100% use IDEs. I live in the hope that FOMO will drive more of the IDE nay sayers to give an appropriate IDE a go, but I guess demographics is the thing that will do the job in the end.

Optimising for fewest key strokes only makes sense transmitting to Pluto or beyond

> the functionality gap between them seems too big to put them in the same category.

Amen!

Edit

To give you all some ideas what an IDE can do

• What are the criterias of a "good" Perl IDE?
• [EMACS] "Emacs as Perl IDE" - Abstract for YAPC::EU 2016

Cheers Rolf
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The thought behind this is: perhaps comment and "}" might just look like two lines, but perhaps there is some special character looking like a newline but not counted as end-of-comment

Does the file compile with perl -c ?

It's not uncommon that syntax parsing is causing hiccups. Normally this goes away after further edits.

You could also pipe your file thru perltidy and see if the problem persists.

Otherwise... Not enough data to tell what's happening, if the IDE is causing the problem it might be related to confusion about your regexes.

I'm using Emacs, the "mother of all IDEs" and it runs well on my phone.

But like VIM I don't recommend it to people who don't wanna invest time in learning and configuration.

… Emacs, the "mother of all IDEs"…

I use emacs since 1997 or 1998. To be precise: I started with XEmacs on Windows NT and emacs-nox on SuSE-Linux. That was a big shock for my colleagues who used MacOS 9 - for them, BBEdit was the greatest thing since sliced bread. In between I've had forays into Eclipse (free and commercial versions) and IntelliJ, as well as various others whose names I've forgotten or blocked out. The most amazing experience I recently had with emacs was with rust with rustic, rust-analyzer and company. A real IDE - in blink-shell with mosh on my IPad. I use a Magic Keyboard - without a real keyboard I think emacs on the IPad is hell. So, now I'm trying to imagine how you do it on the iPhone 🤪😎. Not a bad performance, I'd say.

«The Crux of the Biscuit is the Apostrophe»

Not iPhone but Android+Termux and only short code examples.

Customization is key.

Edit

PS: I'm using Emacs since my second semester at university.

There are for sure better and more intuitive IDEs, but they come and go.

Emacs runs everywhere and stays.

I customized it to my needs, it's actually not an IDE but an IDE construction set.

Update

In hindsight, modal editing in vi style might be more appropriate for mobile keyboards. 🤔

So I will probably learn it, and take the extra step to activate vim emulation inside Emacs ;)

Cheers Rolf
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Hi. Thanks. There is so much information with this site. I think I am responding mainly to soonix and LanX.

What happens if you add another Newline before the "}"?

I tried this and the Line X (previous email) error went away but the Line X plus 300 still remained. I got curious about the other white space type of characters. Here is a presentation from the offending code/comment some of which I can remove, and have no errors from Eclipse (and EPIC).

;

        #  print $result;        
    }

This is a ascii dump of the above (compliments of Notepad++)

3B0D0A0D0A09092320207072696E7420
24726573756C743B09090D0A097D
    

The ascii characters
3B => ;
0D => CR
0A => LF
09 => Tab
23 => #
20 => space
70 => p

74 => t

7D => }
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I found nothing suspicious with the above. Oddly there are 2 tabs after comment "print $result;"

Does the file compile with perl -c ?

Yes it does.

C:\u\Perl_Eclipse_IDE\OBD2_control>perl -c OBD2_control_test_02.pl
OBD2_control_test_02.pl syntax OK

C:\u\Perl_Eclipse_IDE\OBD2_control>
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This seems to suggest my problems are an issue with Eclipse (and EPIC). I feel I am up for a learning curve with EMACs. It difficult to appreciate an editor having the function of an IDE. Are there any first suggestions for someone running perl on windoms 10 ?? (where best to Emac download from)

Regards JC......

If you go the emacs way, make sure to set cperl-mode as standard when opening .pl files.

Otherwise consider VSCode, Komodo IDE, and CamelCade.

• Komodo IDE should be free to use now, maybe ask Grandfather
• CamelCade ... no idea, ask StevieB
• VsCode, no personal experience. It's free and comes with multiple Perl related LSP plugins, If they play well on windows is another question,
• regarding Emacs, haj is the maintainer of cperl-mode now.
Maybe have a look at my IDE criteria thread or the video of my talk and ask yourself which features are essential for you.

Hope this helps! :)

Cheers Rolf
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