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in thread What's your view on AI coding assistants?

I feel it is even more wrong than that:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/10/12/why-western-executives-visit-china-coming-back-terrified/
“It’s the most humbling thing I’ve ever seen,” said Ford’s chief execu +tive about his recent trip to China. ... “I can take you to factories [in China] now, where you’ll basically be + alongside a big conveyor and the machines come out of the floor and +begin to assemble parts,” he says. “And you’re walking alongside this conveyor, and after about 800, 900 +metres, a truck drives out. There are no people – everything is robot +ic.” ... Other executives describe vast, “dark factories” where robots do so mu +ch of the work alone that there is no need to even leave the lights o +n for humans. “We visited a dark factory producing some astronomical number of mobil +e phones,” recalls Greg Jackson, the boss of British energy supplier +Octopus. “The process was so heavily automated that there were no workers on th +e manufacturing side, just a small number who were there to ensure th +e plant was working. ... “China has quite a notable demographic problem but its manufacturing i +s, generally, quite labour-intensive,” he says. “So in a pre-emptive fashion, they want to automate it as much as poss +ible, not because they expect they’ll be able to get higher margins – + that is usually the idea in the West – but to compensate for this po +pulation decline and to get a competitive advantage.” ...

worlds colliding. Literally! If you read the article you will see war mentioned there from that stupid, but honest, journalist.

no dishwashing in the trenches

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Re^4: What's your view on AI coding assistants?
by jdporter (Paladin) on Oct 17, 2025 at 15:59 UTC

    Robotics and A.I. are not the same thing.

      Unless they are merged into the same thing

      But anyway, I think you missed my point: maximising profits for few corporations leads to hell. AI under this framework is double hell. Discussions should include this point and indeed some Monks got it: who controls AI? Other countries, hopefully, are using another framework (at least on the surface :( ). Though other pitfalls are lurking for them. We will see.

        I'm just saying, citing robotics ("tried in some factories") while mounting an argument against A.I. doesn't really make sense.