in reply to Re: Learning from any source
in thread Learning from any source
(As a bit of background, he's a born-again Christian and I'm a Wiccan with an amateur philosophy background.)
"Evil", as a term, has been bandied about waaaay too much in the past 50 years. And, frankly, I do not think it applies to this, or any other, terrorist bombing ever done. The only situation from the past century I can think of that "evil" could possibly apply to would be the pogroms of the USSR under Stalin. No, not even the Holocaust.
Before I go any further, let me define what I consider to be "evil". It is an adjective, describing an act that has no redeeming goals and no possible redeeming qualities.
An act can be horrific, despicable, and make us cringe in our seats ... yet not be evil. And, in no way would I ever advocate an act whose execution takes life in any form without a significant redeeming nature, such as food or defense of self/family.
The Holocaust, and Nazi Germany in general, was a true holocaust. Over 25% of the Jews (and other undesirables) alive on the Earth at the time died in a period of 6 years, most in unspeakable agony. Yet, the goal behind it, while reprehensible, was (given their assumptions) ... conceivable. It was within the paradigm of Nazi Germany to eradicate another "race of humans". (Note that I do not subscribe to the fallacy of human racial differences ... all humans are of one species. That is the only differentiation supportable by science.)
In addition, Nazi Germany gave us the superhighway, German-engineered cars (especially the VolksWagon), and ultimately the Apollo program. It ignited the need for computing machinery (for which every person who reads this is grateful) and paved the way for the EU (which most people won't find evil).
Plus, and this is debatable as to whether this is a good thing, without the Holocaust there would have been no Israel. No Jewish homeland. No end to the Diaspora that had lasted well over 1500 years.
The other ethnic cleansings that have happened (with alarming regularity) in the past 50 years have their roots in the desire for homogeneity and cultural identity. We, as Westerners in Europe and North America, have that very same desire in all of our hearts. I recognize it in myself and I'm both white and black. We just don't let it flare up (at least not since the 60's...)
What the perpetrators of the WTC wanted was for the US to feel the pain that we have dished out since 1945. I'm going to estimate that 10,000 people died or were significantly injured on Tuesday. 30,000 have died in Chile due to CIA-trained guerillas. Hell, we trained Osama bin Ladin! We trained him to go out and kill Russian soldiers, which he did, quite well. And for what? Because we wanted to one-up the Soviets. No. Other. Reason.
I understand that sentiment. Go check out the OT:Parking Lot thread for our version of it. I wholeheartedly agree with that thread, in case you're wondering. I would join the military if they would give me a gun and point me in the direction of those who were in any way related, however distantly, to Tuesday's massacre.
Does that make me evil?
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