Re: Software Projects In Real Life: "I See Dead People"

Your note deserves a more well-thought-out reply than I have time to provide for the moment.

I see both Art and Science in Software Engineering, and while the scales tip in many places toward the Science and process and controls and aversion to risk, it is not yet gone in this profession that new things can be created -- and notably new things of value are rarely created in the stifling environment of controlled process.

Therefore, I disagree in general with your assertions, but I lack the time to back this up in this discussion at this time. I hope to be able to fill this out later, but given the general trend in the Monastary to bully you regardless of what you have to say, I doubt the conversation will retain any useful dialogue by the time I am able to contribute more fully in my arguments against you.

For that, I apologize.

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Re^2: Software Projects In Real Life: "I See Dead People" by locked_user sundialsvc4 (Abbot) on Jun 24, 2015 at 21:46 UTC
Certainly, certainly. (Software Engineering, like all other forms of Engineering, is both an Art and [Applied ...] Science.) I certainly look forward to your further thoughts about “stifling” environments, and perhaps more-generally about the necessary balance between “creativity” and “process.” Please, take your time. All that I can do, frankly, is to try to ignore “the bullies among us.” This profession that we mutually chose turns out not to be such a simple thing, so there is much to talk about. I do look forward to what you ... and others ... will have to say, my esteemed colleague. (And, I mean that.)

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by locked_user sundialsvc4 (Abbot) on Jun 24, 2015 at 21:46 UTC

Certainly, certainly. (Software Engineering, like all other forms of Engineering, is both an Art and [Applied ...] Science.) I certainly look forward to your further thoughts about “stifling” environments, and perhaps more-generally about the necessary balance between “creativity” and “process.” Please, take your time.

All that I can do, frankly, is to try to ignore “the bullies among us.” This profession that we mutually chose turns out not to be such a simple thing, so there is much to talk about. I do look forward to what you ... and others ... will have to say, my esteemed colleague. (And, I mean that.)