Disillusion happens too. Democracy is worth your rant. I frontpaged your post because you expressed your own opinion, and you tryed to remain calm. I never saw Camelia and and when i did.. i smiled. You have my sympathy. But i'v done nothing to make Perl6 better, nor simply to be. In my perspective Perl6 belong in the futuristic possibilities. They like Camelia? It's good. You felt somehow lowered in your amor proprio (something like self exstimation, but for latins) by the choice? why? Is your Perl skill lowered by the childish butterfly? Is effectivness and power of your programs weakened? I bet that for your customer would be the same if you told them 'I'll do this using AbraCadabra' instead of Perl. Dont look at names, dont look at butterflies, better look at the landscape and at your tools. Also freacks with improbables shirts collars do well, and why not butterflies »ö« ?

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PS: i read in camelia.txt

I also take it as a given that we want to discourage misogyny in our community. You of the masculine persuasion should consider it an opportunity to show off your sensitive side. :)

The intent is to make the world a better place, take the opportynity! ;=)

The new logo must make Larry at least as happy as Camelia does.

That is the extent to which my mind is still open... :-)

Larry

So if he likes it, what's the problem?
L*