Re: It's so easy to become complacent.

Are you talking about this:

$ python -c 'print("START"); print(x + y)'
START
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
NameError: name 'x' is not defined

$ perl -E 'use strict; say "START"; say $x + $y'
Global symbol "$x" requires explicit package name (did you forget to d
+eclare "my $x"?) at -e line 1.
Global symbol "$y" requires explicit package name (did you forget to d
+eclare "my $y"?) at -e line 1.
Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors.
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Now, this is Python and not Lua and maybe Python does have some 'strict' mode hidden somewhere... but I think it doesn't and it's pretty gross that it actually executes some code (print("START")) before crashing. I take it Lua also doesn't the equivalent of 'strict "vars"'.

Which makes the current state of the community all the more depressing.

Well, OTOH, I heard Lua has sane and simple C API, while Perl has XS... nothing is perfect.

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Re^2: It's so easy to become complacent. by salva (Canon) on Feb 25, 2016 at 09:00 UTC
bah, variables are just one of so many things!!! `$ perl -E 'use strict; sub foo { say "hello" }; say "runtime!"; f00()' runtime! Undefined subroutine &main::f00 called at -e line 1.` [download] Though I have to admit that not being able to declare variables explicitly (and as result, their scope) is for me one of the mayor Python issues.	[reply] [d/l]
Re^3: It's so easy to become complacent. by eserte (Deacon) on Feb 26, 2016 at 08:21 UTC
That's why I like to omit the parentheses whenever possible: `$ perl -E 'use strict; sub foo { say "hello" }; say "runtime!"; foo' runtime! hello $ perl -E 'use strict; sub foo { say "hello" }; say "runtime!"; f00' Bareword "f00" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at -e line 1. Execution of -e aborted due to compilation errors.` [download]	[reply] [d/l]
Re^2: It's so easy to become complacent. by Anonymous Monk on Feb 25, 2016 at 04:31 UTC
`perl -E 'BEGIN { say "uh-uh" } use strict; say "START"; say $x + $y'` [download]	[reply] [d/l]
Re^3: It's so easy to become complacent. by Anonymous Monk on Feb 25, 2016 at 04:56 UTC
Is that supposed to be a counterexample or what?..	[reply]
Re^4: It's so easy to become complacent. by Anonymous Monk on Feb 25, 2016 at 07:03 UTC
It's not supposed to be anything. It is a counterexample. If you have an actual question you need help with, just ask.	[reply]
Re^5: It's so easy to become complacent. by Anonymous Monk on Feb 25, 2016 at 08:19 UTC