Quite the few examples there
tye! As for having the current value of $_ modified in the original in the for loop, I was aware of this happening, though what I guess I was trying to say is that my above map example did _only_ that, and just returned blank elements.
Thanks for the extra effort
tye, it makes all the difference, my "light" came on :) (rarely happens as you can tell :)
BlackJudas