Thread::Queue dies in debugger, runs without debugger (solved)

yulivee07 has asked for the wisdom of the Perl Monks concerning the following question:

Hi fellow perlmonks, this morning I am trying to debug a program which is making use of Thread::Queue. Fortunately, the person who wrote it in the first place included an option "--debug" so the program does not use Threads, making debugging easier. However, I am encountering a problem which I currently have no clue how to tackle:

If I start the program in the debugger it blurts out error messages and dies:

perl -d ./program --debug ~/github/sbin/programconfig

Loading DB routines from perl5db.pl version 1.44
Editor support available.

Enter h or 'h h' for help, or 'man perldebug' for more help.

lock can only be used on shared values at /usr/opt/perl5/lib/5.20.1/pe
+rl5db.pl line 4101.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/opt/perl5/lib/5.20.1/Thread/
+Queue.pm line 9.
Compilation failed in require at ./program line 1156.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at ./program line 1156.
lock can only be used on shared values at /usr/opt/perl5/lib/5.20.1/pe
+rl5db.pl line 4101.
END failed--call queue aborted at ./program line 1156.
lock can only be used on shared values at /usr/opt/perl5/lib/5.20.1/pe
+rl5db.pl line 2514.
END failed--call queue aborted at ./program line 8615.
Unbalanced scopes: 6 more ENTERs than LEAVEs
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If I start the same thing on the command line without the debugger, it just runs:

./program --debug ~/github/sbin/programconfig
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I am a bit at loss how to properly debug this, as I am doing a feature extension and I am trying to hunt down an error. Any Ideas why Thread::Queue dies in the debugger but runs without the debugger? Looking at other questions regarding Thread::Queue it should be possible to debug it (although it could be hard with the threading). Also I admit, I don't quite understand the error message (the part about locking and the unbalanced scopes).

Appreciating any hints!
Yulivee

Update
I got this working. For anyone who stumbles upon this: Threads need to be explicitly enabled in the debugger, even if they are not in in use. As soon as a threads module is in user, one needs to start the debugger with perl -dt program.

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Re: Thread::Queue dies in debugger, runs without debugger by stevieb (Canon) on Nov 01, 2017 at 13:36 UTC
From perldebug: perl -dt threaded_program_name Debug a given program using threads (experimental). So essentially, instead of running with `perl -d`, try running with `perl -dt`. The 5.26 doc states that it's experimental, but my perldelta foo is failing this morning, so I can't figure out what version this feature was introduced. So worst case, you'll need a 5.26.x version of perl for this to work (hopefully I'll find the actual release, or someone else will).	[reply] [d/l] [select]
Re^2: Thread::Queue dies in debugger, runs without debugger by pryrt (Abbot) on Nov 01, 2017 at 14:00 UTC
perldebug 5.8.9 "Calling the debugger" lists `-dt`, but perldebug 5.8.8 doesn't even have that section -- though that may relate more to perl589delta "Changes to Existing Documentation" than that being when the `-dt` feature was added. But that means that "experimental feature" goes back at least as far as 5.8.9.	[reply] [d/l] [select]
Re^3: Thread::Queue dies in debugger, runs without debugger by stevieb (Canon) on Nov 01, 2017 at 14:03 UTC
Holy crap, no wonder I couldn't find it. Good thing I didn't say "it's experimental, so it shouldn't have been in core for overly long" like I was going to! (I didn't, because I fully remember the whole smartmach fiasco, which iirc, is still kind of ongoing). Thanks for digging, pryrt!	[reply]