in reply to Re^6: Who is your favorite scientist and why?
in thread Who is your favorite scientist and why?

How far does the creation process go in your world? Do you believe god handknitted our DNA? Or did HE just come up with a set of laws and let it all play out according to them and is now watching us like a reality show?

Does HE interfere occassionally, for example by healing the eyesight a middle class scottish woman while taking a break from giving AIDS to african babies?


holli

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Re^8: Who is your favorite scientist and why?
by james28909 (Deacon) on Dec 13, 2017 at 17:11 UTC
    with how the quantum world works, i cannot answer that. but, just speculating, if observation or measuring something actually brings it into existence (collapses the wave function), that means at a very fundamental scale, there are things that seem "magical" but we know there is no such thing as magic. so if this is a simulation, and the quantum world is what everything is made of on a macroscopic level and probably larger, whos to say that dna wasnt a prethought up thing that was just a small part of this universe to create/help life? like i said in one of my other posts a while ago, in a universe that is trying to kill life in every way possible, why does life thrive like it is doing? its a good question and one i have not put alot of thought into.
Re^8: Who is your favorite scientist and why?
by james28909 (Deacon) on Dec 13, 2017 at 17:16 UTC
    also to answer your first question, creation happens when the wave function collapses. if you believe we are a simulation, then you understand the double slit experiment, and the point of the quantum eraser. all i can do is speculate. i do not have those answers, noone does. i just know that observation/measurement is what literally creates the world/universe around us, or it atleast seems that way.
Re^8: Who is your favorite scientist and why?
by james28909 (Deacon) on Dec 13, 2017 at 17:23 UTC
    also, i want to point out you are basing your observations on just humans. think outside the box. literally anything IS possible. but... to sit and speculate about it and try to make out like you know more than someone else, or your way of views id the only right one... just because a baby in africa has aids, well thats pointless. you seem to have a deep seated anger against a god that even you dont believe exists. that is not healthy.
      you seem to have a deep seated anger against a god
      Not really. I have a deept seated anger against religious zealots. If you'd know how I was raised, you'd understand that.


      holli

      You can lead your users to water, but alas, you cannot drown them.
        its pointless and holding grudges will only lead to argument or war. you do what you want in life, but just know that your going to spend alot of time arguing with people who just have not taken that scientific step because they are scared and in fear of repercussions from their god. it is a hard thing to take away from people usually. most of the time you can give them great evidence, and they will still dispute it. that is why i think it takes a certain mentality to think outside the box and not stay stuck on man made religion. you have to get past your fears of what a make believe god will do to you, you also have to get past the fear of what your peers might think. those two are the two hardest fears to get people to overcome... on this subject anyways.