in reply to OT: Web Services, Java and .NET

Now tell us what you really think. :)

Seriously, I found the article valuable mostly for its explanation of the services concept and implementation. The description of the Java abstractions available for interfacing with services sounds very sexy, but I suspect that a "Perl" (or CPAN) column would be populated at least as densely as the J2EE column.

Anyone volunteer to put together a list of Perl equivalents?

(silly me, I clicked the wrong link, I meant to reply to jeffa)

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(jeffa) 2Re: OT: Web Services, Java and .NET
by jeffa (Bishop) on Oct 30, 2001 at 04:08 UTC
    Heh, all in good fun! :D

    Putting all anger aside, i would like to add that the article is indeed educational and enlightening - just take the propaganda with a grain of salt.

    I want to re-print a piece from Java Enterprise in a Nutshell, page 4. If anyone feels threatened by me posting a quote from a copyrighted book, i will remove this. Also note that this is pre-Y2K literature.

    • Enterprise computing usually takes place in a heterogeneous network: one in which the computers range from large mainframes and supercomputers down to PCs ... The only common denominator is that all the computers in the network speak the same fundamental network protocol (usually TCP/IP).
    • A variety of server applications run on top of the heterogeneous network hardware. An enterprise might have database software from three different companies, each of which defines different, incompatible extensions.
    • Enterprise computing involves the use of many different network protocols and standards. Some standards overlap in small or significant ways. Many have been extended in various vendor-specific, nonstandard ways. Some are quite old and use a vocabulary and terminology that dates back to an earlier era of computing...
    • Enterprise computing has only recently (1999) emerged as an integrated discipline of its own. Although enterprise development models are today becoming more cohesive and encompassing, many enterprises are still left with lots of "legacy systems" that are aggregated in an ad-hoc way.
    • Enterprise programmers, like many of us in the high-tech world, tend to make their work seem more complicated that (sic) it actually is. This is a natural human tendency - to be part of the "in" group and keep outsiders out - but this tendency seems somehow magnified within the computer industry.
    That is the basis of Enterprise Programming - it has grown since 1999, but the meat is still the same: create an interface into an outdated COBOL legacy system instead of replacing it with a costly new one. Personally, i think this is merely treating the symptom, but i am not a company with a super tight budget. :)

    But why is Perl NOT capable of sovling this task?

    The only thing i see that would not allow Perl into this "enterprise club" is a lack of stable threads. But i still have hope!

    Thanks to lachoy for providing those links, i just signed up for the P5EE mailing list. And don't forget this wonderful link:

    jeffa

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Re: Re: OT: Web Services, Java and .NET
by lachoy (Parson) on Oct 30, 2001 at 02:04 UTC
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