Re^2: the sad reality of perl

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Re^3: the sad reality of perl by stevieb (Canon) on Oct 10, 2018 at 00:25 UTC
People will be doing that forever. Using Python for Perl, using XXX+ for C, using I_dont_know_what_im_doing for I_never_knew_what_i_was_doing. Currently, Python is the de-facto "school" language (as far as I can tell) for "Computer Science" folk. It happens. Languages change. What upsets me mostly is that there are "instructors" and "educators" out there through "colleges" charging exorbitant amounts of money who claim the staff know what they're doing, sinking people into debt with no real edumication. Point is, don't use snips of anything online for anything useful without knowing what they are: "The problem with Internet quotes is that you can't always depend on their accuracy" -Abraham Lincoln	[reply]
Re^4: the sad reality of perl by soonix (Chancellor) on Oct 10, 2018 at 08:17 UTC
"The problem with Internet quotes is that you can't always depend on their accuracy" -Abraham Lincoln Can't upvote that enough	[reply]
Re^4: the sad reality of perl by perldigious (Priest) on Oct 10, 2018 at 14:12 UTC
This is a lot more snarky than I usually expect from you stevieb... I like it! :-) Just another Perl hooker - My clients appreciate that I keep my code clean but my comments dirty.	[reply]
Re^3: the sad reality of perl by marto (Cardinal) on Oct 10, 2018 at 06:12 UTC
"The point is that people still try to use perl by using snippets from the internet that they don't understand, fail to accomplish their task and finally the problem gets solved using python." This has nothing to do with perl and everything to do with people. It would be more accurately written as: People still use snippets from the internet that they don't understand, often it doesn't do what they expect and often someone else throws them a solution that they copy and paste without understanding what it does. This behavior is so common in outsourcing, you wouldn't believe the scale of it.	[reply]
Re^4: the sad reality of perl by LanX (Saint) on Oct 10, 2018 at 10:29 UTC
> People still use snippets from the internet that they don't understand, often it doesn't do what they expect and often someone else throws them a solution that they copy and paste without understanding what it does. Interesting side-effect though is that copy/pasting of Python is harder because people often get the whitespaces wrong. from the linked thread: > Just to complete this, arzgi's script didn't work after copying and pasting from here. It took a while to work out, after a few PMs, that the spaces were not copied correctly. Cheers Rolf _{(addicted to the Perl Programming Language :) Wikisyntax for the Monastery FootballPerl is like chess, only without the dice}	[reply]
Re^5: the sad reality of perl by stevieb (Canon) on Oct 12, 2018 at 01:35 UTC
"Interesting side-effect though is that copy/pasting of Python is harder because people often get the whitespaces wrong." I am definitely not nearly as "advanced" in Python as I am with Perl (I still learn things in Perl daily so I still classify myself as ~intermediate), but this is the number one issue I find with Python folks who say they know what they are doing. See it a lot in helping newbs at work (along with the confusion of having multiple classes per file). I don't have anything against that at all as we are all new at some point with everything, but what does upset me is when a new employee (or prospect) claims "I'm an expert" and makes that hugely obvious mistake (whitespace issue). To me, it's akin to someone using Perl to perform one of our initial programming challenges but doesn't use `use strict;` or `use warnings;`.	[reply] [d/l] [select]
Re^6: the sad reality of perl by LanX (Saint) on Oct 12, 2018 at 02:12 UTC
Re^4: the sad reality of perl by Perlbotics (Archbishop) on Oct 10, 2018 at 18:09 UTC
Obligatory reference: Essential Copying and Pasting From Stack Overflow Update: No account/login required, just download or press the green Read button.	[reply]