Yes, I am aware of that. But as I tried to state initially; hence "*the* java client"; this is about making such functionality more readily available/convenient. I'm sure this may be very similar to framechat, but again my point it to make it more useable even if you don't have the time/means/inclination to install framechat somewher. Why ought there be dozens of installations of something somewhere that is effectively a website when it could be centrally located and available to all?