For the record, I find putting together a database in MySQL or PostgreSQL (with or without help from Perl) at least an order of magnitude harder than in Access. I've never done anything big, ten tables (some with a few thousand rows), twenty queries, ten reports (with subreports), etc., is about it. But I can usually be up and running with custom input forms and pretty reports in a few hours.

Much as I don't like M$, I had to jump in to defend Access, it's served me well.

scott