Folks,

I'm not one to stick up for the government, but the NSWC have actually made a name for themselves in the Security world, most notably with Intrusion Detection. They developed one of the first open source intrusion detection systems, <a href="http://www.nswc.navy.mil/ISSEC/CID/index.html" "target="_blank"> Shadow.  Stephen Northcutt was one of the original developers for Shadow and he was chief security officer at NSWC. He is now one of the most respected instructors for SANS and I feel if it wasn't for him, Intrusion Detection would not be what it is today. Everybody in the security world has probably heard of him. So, my point is yeah, the majority of the government/military people are clueless (I was in the Air Force for 4 years, so I know), but every once in awhile they produce someone who benefits either the Open Source community or the Security community.

Thanks,
Dru
Another satisfied monk.