Re: (ar0n) Re (2): JavaScript on home nodes

A big Thank You goes out to tye and anyone else involved in getting this to work. (And I can confirm that it works.)

On a side note: One may think whatever about JavaScript. Personally I appreciate how JavaScript can be used to help a visitor navigate a site. OTOH, when used in an evil way, whatever the moral behind, I feel less satisfied. Normally, if a site does things to me that I don't appreciate, I just don't go there any more. But how could I avoid visiting the Monastery?

I could, of course, remember to turn off JavaScript every time I visit the Monastery. But, I almost always have a tab in my Mozilla browser loaded with perlmonks.org.

And there are just too many sites making (too) extensive use of JavaScript for me to turn it off completely.

The Monastery is one of the few sites where I now have the possibility to decide this matter myself. And that makes me feel good. Real good...

Everything will go worng!

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Re: Re: (ar0n) Re (2): JavaScript on home nodes by rjray (Chaplain) on Mar 19, 2002 at 00:42 UTC
On a side note: One may think whatever about JavaScript. Personally I appreciate how JavaScript can be used to help a visitor navigate a site. OTOH, when used in an evil way, whatever the moral behind, I feel less satisfied. I have to voice in support of this. I find buttons like, "This means you have JavaScript on, don't push this button" to be quite effective (and I generally look at the page source to see what the button does, rather than pressing it :-). The stunt this "AgentM" does is just proof that no matter how potentially helpful a technology could be, someone will find a way to make it hurt. The latest version of Mozilla (0.9.9 at the time of this writing) provides objects in the JavaScript run-time to allow SOAP clients to be written in JS. My first thought was that I could put a SOAP call into my home node to retrieve my most recent `use.perl.org` journal entries and add them to my home node. But pudge was quick to note that if the user-agent were to send the cookies along with the request (as user-agents are inclined to do), people could write JS that could cause users to make journal entries without their knowledge. So I imagine he'll be putting in some sort of a screen based on user-agent. My first thought was how to use it to make information more readily available, but he comes from the Slash community, where he has to first worry about what people will try to do with it. Maybe we can get the War on Some Terrorism to extend its scope to include "JavaScript Terrorists"? (Just kidding, of course. Well, mostly.) `--rjray`	[reply]

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Re: Re: (ar0n) Re (2): JavaScript on home nodes
by rjray (Chaplain) on Mar 19, 2002 at 00:42 UTC

On a side note: One may think whatever about JavaScript. Personally I appreciate how JavaScript can be used to help a visitor navigate a site. OTOH, when used in an evil way, whatever the moral behind, I feel less satisfied.

I have to voice in support of this. I find buttons like, "This means you have JavaScript on, don't push this button" to be quite effective (and I generally look at the page source to see what the button does, rather than pressing it :-). The stunt this "AgentM" does is just proof that no matter how potentially helpful a technology could be, someone will find a way to make it hurt.

The latest version of Mozilla (0.9.9 at the time of this writing) provides objects in the JavaScript run-time to allow SOAP clients to be written in JS. My first thought was that I could put a SOAP call into my home node to retrieve my most recent use.perl.org journal entries and add them to my home node. But pudge was quick to note that if the user-agent were to send the cookies along with the request (as user-agents are inclined to do), people could write JS that could cause users to make journal entries without their knowledge. So I imagine he'll be putting in some sort of a screen based on user-agent. My first thought was how to use it to make information more readily available, but he comes from the Slash community, where he has to first worry about what people will try to do with it.

Maybe we can get the War on Some Terrorism to extend its scope to include "JavaScript Terrorists"?

(Just kidding, of course. Well, mostly.)

--rjray

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