you'd have to post the code - not all of us have 'the Ram', although some of us seem to have the gyp :)

The trick with buffers is that Perl, and your OS will hold onto stuff you try to send until there's enough of it to be worth sending as a chunk, or until your program quits. Since your server program won't quit, both server and client will sit there waiting for the other to talk.

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