Ya know ... this really is a smart way to do it. Thanks for bringing it up. Personally, i don't think this violates the golden rule of separation because a <select> is a <select> is a <select>, and they can be a real pain to create with <tmpl_loop>'s. samtregar++ :)

jeffa

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