in reply to obtain fields in table without query

In general, to get the names of a table, you do have to contact the database and ask for the names. And that means, doing a query. Somehow, the information has to get to get to you.... Unless of course you have the names by some other means, or if you have cached them. But you do not speak of such a thing, which means you got to make a query.

Abigail

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