thanx :) i am happy that you are being blunt i am used to c++ and even that i havent programed in a year i posted it cause i cant find a debugger that will debug without running it i dont want to run it cause it might actuallly due part of it but there is no way for me to see the mistake until hours of work have gone by @trans is supposed to be a one entry array i want to take that one entry and put it in to 1 slot in superchunk i will redo code maybe get a bit more right and re post :)