in reply to A vote locker ability?

If you delete the examples, how is a new user going to figure out what kind of material is inappropriate to post? If a post is so egregiously trollish that it is downvoted to the point that it negatively impacts the XP of the poster, that acts as a brake on future behaviour of the same sort.

What I would like to see is a poster's XP score next to every post and reply from that person. That would help a reader of the site see how credible a posting is, or at least give a reader some insight into what kind of community participation the poster has.

That XP note should be static. Things I posted as an initiate should be shown as being from an initiate, I've learned a lot since then :)

oakbox

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Re: Re: A vote locker ability?
by Marza (Vicar) on Jul 19, 2002 at 07:08 UTC

    "What I would like to see is a poster's XP score next to every post and reply from that person."

    Hmm I am not sure that would be a good idea. Might influence some people to vote the same to fit in with the rest. Herd mentality. Then on the other side, you get people that will down vote it simply because it is high.

    As to the static titles on posts. Sounds reasonable but I get the feeling that would take a great effort to change that. Not sure....

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      I would welcome the idea. Currently, I cast many votes for no other reason than to find out how many votes a post has, as I'm curious in what people think is a good post and what isn't. There's no option of voting "blank", so I've to vote either ++ or --. That means, I vote -- to posts that do not earn a --, and I vote ++ for posts that do not earn a ++.

      I'd trade in my ability to vote to see the votes. ;-) One could prevent a "herd" mentality by starting off with no votes displayed to a post, but giving readers the option to view the number of votes cast. Once you select that option, you no longer are able to vote for that post.

      (And now we'll get people saying that they are happy with the system as it is, and I shouldn't demand vroom to change the site. And that I'm a heritic for even wanting to change the site. Well, read again. I'm not suggesting anything should be done. I'm just pointing out what could be done.)

      Abigail

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        A neat trick is to change your user settings so that postings are sorted by "Best First" instead of "Chronological". This way you can vote on a few and at least have an idea how the rest rank. If a post is between one that has a repuatation of 16 and one with 5, you at least have an idea.

        This way, when downvoting, I tend to go a little easier on those that sort last.
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        Actually, I love the idea - a perfect solution to the me-too-voting problem.

        Makeshifts last the longest.

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        I agree with Abigail-II in regards to being able to see the 'rep' of a post before voting - it would help me in separating the wheat from the chaff. My problem (and I imagine a problem for most of us lower-skilled monks) is that I can't tell the difference between a well-written but ultimately incorrect post and one that is just as well-written but accurate (at least not without a lot of time and effort which can't always be spared).

        For example, for the node How to structure applications using a RDBMS, there are many well-written answers. They all might be valid (after all, TIMTOWTDI), but some will obviously be better (read: more elegant|perlish) than others. How is a newbie supposed to know? My solution has been to vote for all the ones that make some sense and then check their 'reps'. It isn't the best solution, since older posts have had the chance to get more votes that the newer ones, but it's a starting point.

        In a perfect world I would study all the answers and once I understood them I would choose the one that best fit the problem. However, I don't have the time (nor, to some extent - the ability) to do this. That is why I rely on my fellow monks, just as I rely on the six Perl books on my desk.

        As an aside, I find it interesting that I can see the 'rep' of a post if I go to Best Nodes or Worst Nodes, but not when I go to Newest Nodes.

        Update: While writing this, I saw tadman's suggestion. Cool, yet another part of PerlMonks that I need to learn about...

        Pat

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      Might influence some people to vote the same to fit in with the rest. Herd mentality.

      I would like to see the XP of the person making the post, not the reputation of the post itself.

      As to the static titles on posts. Sounds reasonable but I get the feeling that would take a great effort to change that.

      It would be next to impossible to make that retroactive. The XP of a poster is not stored in the database. But it can be implemented for future posts. I guess it's just a matter of finding out if this is a good enough idea.

      oakbox

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Re(2): A vote locker ability?
by FoxtrotUniform (Prior) on Jul 19, 2002 at 16:22 UTC

    ObXPDoesn'tMatterPost:

      What I would like to see is a poster's XP score next to every post and reply from that person. That would help a reader of the site see how credible a posting is...

    Bogus. I'd hate for someone checking XP scores on posts to assume that I (4272 XP as of this post) am a more credible Perl hacker than, say, Abigail-II (3399 XP as of this post).

      ...or at least give a reader some insight into what kind of community participation the poster has.

    That's more reasonable, but I'm not sure how useful it would be. It might add some information to a Perl Monks Discussion post, but I'm not convinced that it'd be worth the effort.

    --
    The hell with paco, vote for Erudil!
    :wq

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