Given the high demand for Perl programmers, I don't see any reason why _anybody_ needs to work under poor conditions. Just tell them, "Look, this is how it's done, there are reasons the programmers need it this way, and otherwise I won't work for you." And if they don't like it, well... there ARE lots of jobs for Perl programmers right now! You don't even need experience... if you're any good, you just write some cool programs as demos, and start taking short-term contracts.

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