arrrrrggggg!!!! not all ISPs have a sensible bounce msg as it appears. AOL, for example, doesnt include a complete email address, such as luser2002@aol.com but only the userid, luser2002 ... i completely forgot about that. Sorry response-newsletter@lists.katrillion.com. Your mail to the following recipients could not be delivered because they are not accepting mail with attachments or embedded images: micehatr the above is from AOL. any suggestions on how to handle this? (BEFORE you suggest a bunch of regex's take a look at the parsembox in the code section that i posted yesterday. i am trying to make this, parsembox2, BETTER than the first one) thanks for any input!