I love this place. Where else can you post a question by and have it answered by the person who wrote the book that taught you perl a few years ago. Anyway I've looked at some of your suggestions. Templete Toolkit does look nice. I going to have to map out excatly where I think I want to go and give each an extensive look to see which will make my travels least painful. I'll post back when I have the preliminary stuff done if anyone case to see how it turns out.