I understand what you are saying about the frame being just another html document, and I understand how to build the frames and how they are presented to the browser.

..... 10 minutes pass .....

Nevermind. I figured out how the site was calling the frame I wanted to get the data from. First frame (the only one perl was seeing) called in the frame I labelled as the '3rd'. That frame then created the one I wanted the data from.

Please excuse my lack of brainpower this morning. I think I used it all up trying to figure out some Windows/IE issues. Yeah, yeah, I think the same as most sane people about Windows, etc. The best part about Windows is that these things take constant administration. Job security without having to create it myself!

I am the TacoVendor