Re: •Re: Friends don't let friends use ASP?

ASP is a language-agnostic "glue" technology ... So tell them "Yes, I'll use ASP", and then go ahead and use it with PerlScript.

That advice is both technically correct and dangerious. To less knowledgable managers, ASP means "Microsoft's way of doing it" (i.e., VBScript or JScript). Sneaking in a non-Microsoft technology using a "Well, you didn't understand the acronym" argument is liable to get you in trouble.

You might be able to sneak Perl in this way, and demonstrate how it's superior to VBScript or JScript by solving a gnarly problem quickly, but you're going to have to weight this against the probability of getting your management chain pissed off that you tried to sneak something in under their radar.

Is there a problem so painful that management wouldn't care how it was solved, just that it was solved quickly? That'd be where to start.

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Re: Re: o Re: Friends don't let friends use ASP? by belg4mit (Prior) on Aug 23, 2002 at 02:03 UTC
I really don't think it's such a big deal. I used to write ASP, started with VBScript, they wanted things that could not be reasonably done, and I was pushing for Perl anyways and so we did it in PerlScript. The main issue is that if it's a commericial product or enterpise use you need to get the license. Otherwise, it really is about them understanding, and it's not your problem. ASP is the IIS solution for FastCGI/mod_perl, etc. `-- perl -pew "s/\b;([mnst])/'$1/g"`	[reply]
Re: Friends don't let friends use ASP? by Spenser (Friar) on Aug 23, 2002 at 18:43 UTC
I agree with dws here in that your only chance of getting them to "see" the value of Perl is to show them what it can do, to show it to them in action. I would suggest that you ask to be allowed to experiment in limited ways with Perl. Ask them to let you install it on the server for your use. Then, occassionally create scripts to do creative things that no one else is doing now. At my office, we started using it for behind the scene system administration, to listen for hackers, and to process data for reports for managers. We used it to do things that no one had ever considered doing in VB (in our case) because it wasn't worth the effort and was too much work to set up. The result has been that people have been pleased by the fact that server maintainence is easier, that hackers are being detected quicker, and that reports that were previously put together manually by managers using MS Excel are now e-mailed to them by the server. That's Spenser, with an "s" like the detective.	[reply]