in reply to Re: Re: Tracing zombie variables.
in thread Tracing zombie variables.

indeed. cyclic references *can* be a bitch though, especially in situations where one has a lot of inter-operating objects in a persistent Perl interpreter, eg mod_perl. consider:

#!/usr/bin/perl -w use strict; package A; { sub new { my $class = shift; return bless( { @_ }, $class ); } sub DESTROY { warn "$_[0] just died"; } sub set { $_[0]->{ $_[1] } = $_[2]; } } package B; { @B::ISA = qw/ A /; } package C; { @C::ISA = qw/ A /; } package main; warn "doing something...\n"; do_something(); warn "doing something else (again)...\n"; do_something(); warn "exiting program...\n"; exit; sub do_something { warn "entering block...\n"; my $a = new A (); my $b = new B (); my $c = new C (); $b->set( C => $c ); $c->set( B => $b ); warn "exiting block\n"; } # output of above: doing something... entering block... exiting block... A=HASH(0x804b424) just died at ./test_objects.pl line 13. doing something else (again)... entering block... exiting block... A=HASH(0x805d074) just died at ./test_objects.pl line 13. exiting program... C=HASH(0x805bb10) just died at ./test_objects.pl line 13 during global + destruction. B=HASH(0x805b9f0) just died at ./test_objects.pl line 13 during global + destruction. C=HASH(0x805d08c) just died at ./test_objects.pl line 13 during global + destruction. B=HASH(0x804b424) just died at ./test_objects.pl line 13 during global + destruction.

Voila, an unclaimed cyclic reference every time you call do_something(), or any other code that creates object that store references to each other. This is surprisingly easy to do in a large, multi object/reference system, and irritatingly difficult to track down when it happens. meanwhile, your httpd's are growing and growing with every page request....

matt