in reply to Assign a reference to a non reference

You're kind of stuck here.

Once you've got the references, you can dereference them one at a time, as you are doing, but good luck trying to assign (copy) them all to "real" arrays/hashes at once because of that second point above. Anyone who knows any better than I do care to comment?
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